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#21 shaktiman

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 08:15 PM

Jews hate the bible because it prophecies what will happen to them in the end times, when their vices come back to hang them, and it's time to pay for their bloodshed. 

 

 

 

Doesn't take a genius to see it's happening right NOW

 

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#22 Ivan88

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 04:32 AM

Louis Farrakhan said that a girl He knows was staying at the house of some folks who claim to be Jews.

She asked their daughter, Why don't  you like Jesus?

Answer: He called us devils.

 

The Honorable Louis Farrakhan said that those who believe in Jesus should ask self professed Jews if they like Jesus, and to ask, why not? if their response is negative.


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#23 grog

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 10:59 AM

Why has secularism got religion in its sights?
 
 
 
 
 
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#24 grog

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 11:45 AM

Florida school shooter requests Bible in jail
 
 
 
 
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#25 Patsy

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 03:59 PM

Religious Relics
Whether it's seeing Jesus in a piece of toast (as one woman reported in 2004) or venerating Christ's foreskin (yes, really), people seem to have a need to get close to objects associated with the founder of Christianity. Here are some of the relics that have earned a place in churches and cathedrals around the world.
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The True Cross
The cross Jesus died on is a powerful symbol for Christians, so it makes sense that the actual cross would be an object of great veneration. According to accounts by fourth-century church historian Socrates Scholasticus, the Roman emperor Constantine's mother demanded that the church built on Christ's supposed crucifixion site be demolished, uncovering three crosses below. True or not, hundreds of scraps of wood venerated as pieces of the True Cross spread across Europe. French theologian John Calvin of Protestant Reformation fame once dryly noted the sheer volume of these relics.
 
"In brief, if all the pieces that could be found were collected together, they would make a big ship-load," Calvin wrote. "Yet the Gospel testifies that a single man was able to carry it."
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The Veil of Veronica
Another famous piece of cloth, the Veil of Veronica is supposed to bear an image of Jesus' face. The legend goes that as Jesus carried the cross before the crucifixion, Saint Veronica wiped sweat from his brow with her veil. Miraculously, Christ's face appeared on the fabric.
 
The problem is that this legend doesn't show up in writing until the Middle Ages. There was certainly a veil with Jesus' face hanging in Rome by the 13th century that was said to be the Veil, but the history of that cloth is spotty. Copies of the Veil were made until the 1600s, when the Pope forbade further copying and ordered all existing copies destroyed. Today, St. Peter's Basilica holds a veil said to be the one displayed in the Middle Ages, but it is not on public display.
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The Crown of Thorns
Biblical accounts state that Roman soldiers mocked Jesus by placing a crown of thorns on his head before his death. Today, this very crown is allegedly housed at the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris. According to Notre Dame officials, the crown cannot be authenticated, but it is still revered. Today, the crown is kept bundled in gold thread and is presented to believers for veneration on the first Friday of each month and every Friday during the pre-Easter period of Lent.
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The Sudarium of Oviedo
At the Cathedral of San Salvador in Spain rests a bloody cloth said to have been wrapped around the head of Jesus after he died. Put on public display only three times a year, the Sudarium has been posited to be a matching set with the Shroud of Turin, though its authenticity is just as debated.
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Crucifixion Nails
Believers debate whether three or four nails were used to crucify Jesus, but according to the Catholic Encyclopedia, no fewer than 30 nails have been venerated as relics of Christ's death. Early Christian Theodoret wrote that Constantine's mother made her son a gift of a "portion of the nails" to insert into his helmet and into the bridle of his horse to protect him from harm. The Iron Crown of Lombardy, an ancient circlet kept in a cathedral outside Milan, is rumored to be made of one of the original "Holy Nails."
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The Holy Grail
The subject of both a Monty Python and an Indiana Jones movie, the Holy Grail is supposed to be a chalice used by Jesus at the Last Supper before his death. Traces of the Grail legend can be found in Celtic myth, which occasionally featured miraculous cauldrons. The first written legend of the Grail dates from the 1100s as an incomplete poem that tells the story of a knight named Perceval who saw the sacred object at a mystical feast. The Grail inspires inventive storytelling even today: In Dan Brown's "The Da Vinci Code," the Grail is (spoiler alert!) the remains of Mary Magdalene, buried beneath the Louvre in Paris.
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The Holy Prepuce
Perhaps the strangest holy relic is the Holy Prepuce, otherwise known as the Holy Foreskin. Jewish tradition would have called for Jesus to be circumcised, and the apocryphal text the Arabic Infancy Gospel holds that the foreskin was saved in an alabaster box. In the Middle Ages, foreskin "relics" multiplied like rabbits, with as many as 18 circulating in Europe at the same time. Clearly sick of controversy, the Catholic Church declared in 1900 that anyone even talking about the Holy Prepuce would be excommunicated. As far as anyone knows, there are no more Holy Foreskins in existence.
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The Shroud of Turin
Radiocarbon dating suggests that this piece of cloth that allegedly wrapped the body of a crucified Jesus Christ is nothing more than a medieval forgery, created to scam 14th-century believers. If it was a scam, it was a good one: Centuries later, debate still rages about the authenticity of the Shroud of Turin. The cloth is currently kept in the chapel of the Cathedral of Saint John the Baptist in Turin, Italy.
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#26 Mario Milano

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 04:13 PM

Florida school shooter requests Bible in jail
 
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Yeh right, The shooter is a Jew, they hate christianity....this is just bullshit from the demonic jew making out it was a Christian that did it, surprised the jew fake stream media didn't say he wanted something Russian so they could insinuate "The Russians Did It"...but then Russia is a Christian nation that they also hate...so no difference when they blame Russia or Christians for their demonic bullshit.

The planet needs to address the Jewish problem once and for all...2000 freakng years we have had to put up with these demons...enough already

Edited by Mario Milano, 08 March 2018 - 04:27 PM.

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#27 Patsy

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 04:25 PM

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Draft of the Bible


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#28 Patsy

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 05:53 PM

" " Some argue that this ancient manuscript proves how the Bible is in fact a work of fiction. The King James Bible was created after King James I ordered 47 translators to produce an ‘authorized’ version of the Bible that would support the English Church over Puritan influence in earlier texts." "


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#29 Patsy

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 05:57 PM

next fiction

 

Could this Quran fragment really be older than Muhammad?
Radio carbon dating of fragments of the world’s oldest Quran, found in Birmingham, England, in July, suggest the document could be older than the prophet Muhammad. Some Islamic scholars challenge the claim.
 
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Researchers from the University of Oxford have said that fragments from the oldest discovered the Quran, appear to predate the founding of Islam by the prophet Muhammad, which could reshape early Islamic history, The Times of London reports. 
 
"This gives more ground to what have been peripheral views of the Koran's genesis, like that Muhammad and his early followers used a text that was already in existence and shaped it to fit their own political and theological agenda, rather than Muhammad receiving a revelation from heaven," Keith Small, a researcher at the University of Oxford, told the Times
 
In July, England's Birmingham University unveiled parts of the world's oldest fragments of the Quran, with radiocarbon dating projecting the manuscript to be at least 1,370 years old.
 
But now, Oxford University researchers used carbon dating to find the pages were from about 1,448 to 1,371 years ago.
 
"It destabilizes, to put it mildly, the idea that we can know anything with certainty about how the Koran emerged – and that in turn has implications for the history of Muhammad and the Companions," historian Tom Holland, told the Times.
 
If Oxford’s dating is correct, the “Birmingham Koran” was created between 568 AD and 645 AD, while Muhammad is believed to have lived between AD570 to AD632.
 
“At the very latest, it was made before the first formal text of the Koran is supposed to have been collated at the behest of the caliph Uthman, the third of the Prophet’s successors, in 653. At the earliest it could date back to Muhammad’s childhood, or possibly even before his birth,” the paper reports.
 
However Muslim scholars have disputed the claims that the ancient fragments predate Islam.
 
“If anything, the manuscript has consolidated traditional accounts of the Koran’s origins,” Mustafa Shah, from London's School of Oriental and African Studies, told the Times.
 
Shady Hekmat Nasser, from the University of Cambridge, told the paper, “We already know from our sources that the Koran was a closed text very early on in Islam, and these discoveries only attest to the accuracy of these sources.”
 
 

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#30 Atossa

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 06:17 PM




All you evil antichrists on Pravda along with Putin's constant worship of JEW-bolsheviks
prove once again Russia's supposed renewal of Christianity is FAKE.

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#31 Bruce M Cow

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 06:52 PM

God or not is doing a piss poor job so far.Just too many mistakes.


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#32 RobertD

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 07:18 PM

Yeh right, The shooter is a Jew, they hate christianity....this is just bullshit from the demonic jew making out it was a Christian that did it, surprised the jew fake stream media didn't say he wanted something Russian so they could insinuate "The Russians Did It"...but then Russia is a Christian nation that they also hate...so no difference when they blame Russia or Christians for their demonic bullshit.

The planet needs to address the Jewish problem once and for all...2000 freakng years we have had to put up with these demons...enough already


Ya know, he found jeeesas in jail so he gets early release.
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#33 Ivan88

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 07:35 PM

Questioning the validity of the King James version of the Bible is not proof of being "evil anti-Christs", especially considering how much it has helped anti-Christs.


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#34 shaktiman

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 09:28 PM

Glad to see things are normal on Pravda's Forum

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#35 Atossa

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 10:56 PM

God or not is doing a piss poor job so far.Just too many mistakes.



How do you know they are "mistakes" ??
Because they don't fit into your world view ??

Romans 9 says God makes both vessels of honor
and vessels of dishonor fitted for destruction.
Isaiah 45 tells us, God creates good and evil.

Lots of vessels of dishonor here at this evil
demented antichrist end of the age, including
most of the posters on Pravda.

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#36 Patsy

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 11:20 PM

" and more B.S. !

 

https://en.wikipedia.../Tetragrammaton

 

in reality Tetragrammaton are the Pyramids  


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#37 Ivan88

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Posted 10 March 2018 - 07:00 AM

King James' Pharisee "translators" didn't make mistakes, except perhaps to have not gone far enough in their sabotage.

I'll come up with some examples later.


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Posted 10 March 2018 - 01:26 PM

'Bible as Literature' Teacher Had Sex With Her Teen Student, Police Say
 
 
 
 
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An Alabama teacher is under arrest after being accused of having a sexual relationship with a student.
 
Calhoun County Sheriff Matthew Wade tells AL.com that 28-year-old Stephanie Henry Pruett is charged with engaging in a sexual act with a student. If convicted, she would face up to 20 years in prison and be required to register as a sex offender.
 
Wade says the Weaver High School "Bible as Literature" and history teacher was arrested Thursday when his agency received a report that she had been sexually involved with a 17-year-old student since October. Pruett is married and has a child. Pruett is on paid leave.
 
An online biography says Pruett previously worked in Jacksonville State University's athletic department. It's unclear if she has a lawyer.
 
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Posted 10 March 2018 - 02:24 PM

Will atheist Dem have a prayer in deep-red Tennessee's special election?
 
 
 
 
 
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A state Senate hopeful in Tennessee is testing whether voters in the deep-red state will support an openly atheist candidate.
 
Gayle Jordan, a Democrat running in a state that Donald Trump won by 26 points in 2016, is executive director of Recovering from Religion, a group that supports people who wish to leave their faith behind. She is a former Southern Baptist who left the denomination 10 years ago "when her then-teenagers began asking questions she could not answer."
 
Jordan said her atheism is an open fact, but she does not want to make it an issue in the special election looming Tuesday.
 
"It's incidental to who I am," Jordan told the Tennessean.
 
Next Tuesday, Jordan will face Republican challenger Shane Reeves for the District 14 seat vacated by Jim Tracy, who took a job with the Trump administration. 
 
On her personal blog, Jordan wrote last year about the campaign that, "What I'm struggling with right now is making private those blog posts where I specifically deal with my secularism. My atheism … These blog posts often use the word Atheist, and some are harsh in their judgment of religion and religious ideas."
 
She said she wants to keep her campaign focused on increasing gun control, abortion rights and religious liberty.
 
When the question of religiosity comes up, she explains that she is an atheist and her worldview means that she cares about human suffering.
 
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Shane Reeves, a Republican candidate in the district.  (Facebook)
 
"That's what motivates me to be involved in my community. It's what motivates me to run for office," she said.
 
'Dangerous' views?
 
But Reeves, in tandem with fellow state GOP officials, have used the issue of religion to drive a wedge between her and the voters in the district, calling her "dangerous" and her lack of faith out of step from the rest of the district.
 
"I just feel like her views are radical," Reeves told the newspaper. "They're out of touch with the district."
 
Reeves said one's faith shapes one's worldview and affects the decisions one makes.
 
"I'm a Christian and that is going to serve as a filter, serve as a moral compass and how I look at things, if I'm fortunate to get elected," Reeves said, adding that many people with whom he has spoken could not believe the Democratic candidate is an atheist.
 
Can you believe, they think the fact that she's an atheist is a reason NOT to vote for her?http://bit.ly/2suS94Y 
 
Good people of Tennessee, live down the disgrace of Scopes 1925. Support Gayle Jordan. Give Tennessee something to be proud of: an openly atheist State Senator.
 
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Lt. Gov. Randy McNally, R-Oak Ridge, launched a scathing attack on Jordan's atheism last month on social media.
 
"In my 40 plus years in Tennessee politics, I've seen few candidates as dangerous as Gayle Jordan. She is not just out of step with a majority of Tennessee on matters of policy. She is out of step on matters of values and faith," McNally wrote.
 
"In her daily work, she directs an organization called 'Recovering from Religion.' Most Tennesseans, whether they are strong believers or not, recognize the strength and comfort faith provides. Gayle Jordan rejects faith as a positive force for good in the world. She believes faith is something from which people need to be rescued," the Republican added.
 
Scott Golden, chairman of the Tennessee Republican Party, said in a statement that Jordan's views were "extreme" and that she works to "lead people away from their faith."
 
The relentless attacks on Jordan's lack of faith led to the endorsement by an atheist superstar, Professor Richard Dawkins, who tweeted in support of the Democrat.
 
"Can you believe, they think the fact that she's an atheist is a reason NOT to vote for her? Good people of Tennessee, live down the disgrace of Scopes 1925. Support Gayle Jordan. Give Tennessee something to be proud of: an openly atheist State Senator," Dawkins tweeted.
 
Seeks healthy discussions
 
Jordan told the Tennessean that she is not trying to end religion but merely wants people to have a healthy discussions about it. Republican attacks on her atheism, she said, have been about politics rather than genuine concern for values in the state.
 
"It puts them in a terrible light," Jordan told the outlet, adding that their comments make them appear unethical, childish and unpatriotic.
 
In terms of demographics, Jordan's atheism appears to be a disadvantage, as only 4 percent of people in Tennessee describe themselves as either agnostic or atheist. Still, she could pull off a surprise in Tuesday's special election.
 
Special elections are known for low voter turnout and Democratic voters have been energized by the Trump administration and Republicans, prompting them to get out and vote in droves. This week, deep-red Texas saw the largest number of Democratic voters since 2002.
 
More importantly, Republican candidates in Tennessee have seen their winning margins decline since Trump took office and a number of Republican-held seats were flipped in other states.
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Posted 11 March 2018 - 11:19 AM

Condo Bans Senior Citizen Bible Study, Christian Music  
 
 
 
 
 
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The sign was not very hard to miss: "ANY AND ALL CHRISTIAN MUSIC IS BANNED."
 
That message was posted on an organ located in a commons area of Cambridge House, a condo building in Port Charlotte, Florida.
 
Residents could belt out the theme song to "Frozen" or Kelly Clarkson's "Stronger," but they were not permitted to sing "Amazing Grace."
 
Residents were also allegedly told they could no longer host a weekly Bible study in the commons area, according to a Fair Housing complaint filed with the Department of Housing and Urban Development.
 
On Feb. 6 Cambridge House passed a resolution "regarding religious observances on the common elements."
 
"Prayers and other religious services, observations, or meetings of any nature shall not occur at meetings of the Association (Owner meetings, member meetings, committee meetings, or, otherwise) and shall not occur in or upon any of the common elements," the resolution read.
 
According to First Liberty Institute, a law firm that specializes in religious liberty cases, the resolution led to a religious cleansing of the entire condo association. Residents removed decorative crosses from their doors and a decorative angel fountain was removed from a courtyard - along with a statue of St. Francis of Assisi.
 
The statue had been donated by a resident in memory of a dead family member, First Liberty Institute noted.
 
But perhaps the most egregious allegation involves Donna Dunbar, a devout Christian and a lay minister in the Seventh Day Adventist Church.
 
First Liberty Institute filed the Fair Housing Act complaint on her behalf. They tell me residents were not given a reason for the crackdown.
 
Dunbar hosted a weekly Bible study for ladies in the condo's social room. They sang songs, prayed and most recently were studying a book called, "Experiencing God," by Henry Blackaby.
 
Other groups of similar size used the room for thrice-weekly card games and movie nights.
 
However, Dunbar was ordered by the condo association's treasurer to obtain insurance in order to continue her meetings, the complaint alleges.
 
Nevertheless, Dunbar obtained the insurance policy and continued the Bible study meetings.
 
But all that changed in early February when the condo association passed what First Liberty Institute called a "discriminatory resolution" without prior notice.
 
If true, that would constitute a violation of Florida law.
 
On Feb. 7, Dunbar and her husband received a letter from Gateway Management ordering them to cease and desist the Bible study.
 
"The result of this resolution prohibits Bible Study meetings in the Social Room effective February 16, 2018," the letter read.
 
So why not just host the Bible study in her home?
 
According to First Liberty Institute, the participants would not be able to fit comfortably in Mrs. Dunbar's 919 square-foot condo.
 
Regardless, First Liberty Institute and Greenberg Traurig, P.A. contend the Bible study group has every right to use the social room for their weekly gathering.
 
"The Cambridge House Resolution, both in text and in application, is discriminatory and violates the Fair Housing Act because it prohibits Mrs. Dunbar and other Christian residents from accessing common condominium areas for any religious activity, while allowing other residents to use those same facilities for similar non-secular purposes," attorney Adam Foslid wrote in the complaint.
 
Neither the condo association nor its management company responded to my telephone calls.
 
It seems like a slam dunk case for the religious residents. If management allows residents to play poker in the social room, they should also allow folks to hold a Bible study.
 
I'm putting my money on the church ladies.
 
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