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Posted 15 April 2018 - 04:10 PM

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 04:12 PM

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#108 Traveler

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 04:22 PM

I see the move now is just to hammer the Christians.

 

Interesting to see that there is a claim that there has to be a separation between church and state but the gay community sees no problem twisting the state to its own ends

 

http://www.wnd.com/2...t_orig=politics

 

In fact the gay push is so bad that a situation is developing where you are required to sing the bum brush support song if you want a job in government. And then you have the gall to claim that government represents the will of the people.This is hypocrisy at its worst.

 

THERE NEEDS TO BE A SEPARATION BETWEEN SODOMITE MOVEMENTS AND THE STATE.


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Posted 15 April 2018 - 05:20 PM

Religious belief linked to suicidal thoughts for LGBT people
 
 
 
 
 
 
April 15, 2018
 
 
 
 
 
 
Although religiosity is generally tied to reduced suicide risk, the opposite may be true for some young lesbian, gay and questioning adults, researchers say.
 
Based on data from more than 21,000 US college students, researchers found that greater religious feeling and engagement was tied to increased risk of suicidal thoughts and actions for participants who identified as LGBQ.
 
'Religion has typically been seen as something that would protect somebody from thoughts of suicide or trying to kill themselves, and in our study our evidence suggests that may not be the case for everyone, particularly for those we refer to as sexual minority people,' said one of the study authors, John Blosnich of the Injury Control Research Center at West Virginia University in Morgantown.
 
Previous research suggests that belonging to a religious faith reduces risky behavior in young people, such as substance use and unsafe sex, Blosnich noted in a telephone interview. Religiosity has also been linked to a lower risk of suicidal behaviors, but there is some evidence to suggest that the impact of religion may be different for lesbian, gay, bisexual and questioning (LGBQ) individuals.
 
The study team analyzed survey data from the 2011 University of Texas at Austin's Research Consortium on 21,247 college-enrolled 18- to 30-year-olds, including 2.3 per cent who reported being lesbian or gay, 3.3 per cent who identified as bisexual and 1.1 percent who were questioning their sexuality.
 
All participants rated the importance of religion in their lives on a 1 to 5 scale, from 'not important' to 'very important.' Between 21 per cent and 28 per cent of LGBQ participants rated the importance of religion to them at a 4 or 5, compared with 39 per cent of heterosexuals, researchers report in American Journal of Preventive Medicine.
 
Questioning youth had the highest rate of recent thoughts about suicide, at 16.4 per cent, compared with 3.7 per cent of heterosexuals, 6.5 per cent of lesbian/gay individuals and 11.4 per cent of bisexuals. Lifetime suicide attempts were reported by 20 per cent of bisexual youth, 17 per cent of questioning youth, 14 per cent of gay or lesbian youth and 5 per cent of heterosexuals.
 
For bisexual youth, the importance of religion was not associated with suicidal behavior, while religiosity was protective against thoughts of suicide and suicidal attempts in the heterosexual youth. But lesbians and gays who reported that religion was important to them were 38 per cent more likely to have had recent suicidal thoughts. For lesbians only, religion was associated with a 52 per cent increased likelihood of suicidal thinking.
 
Questioning individuals were almost three times as likely to have attempted suicide recently if they reported that religion was very important to them.
 
Among lesbians and gays who said religion was not important to them, there was no association between sexual orientation and recent suicide attempts. But being homosexual did significantly increase the likelihood of recent suicide attempts in people who said that religion was very important to them.
 
'Some sexual minority folks are really at odds. They feel very confused or they feel that they are in conflict with their faith because of who they are. That's a very scary place to be in,' Blosnich said.
 
'We are definitely not saying that religion, period, is bad; it's not,' he added. 'There are many sexual minority people who find great strength and great sources of support in their religious communities, but unfortunately we hear many stories about people who do not.'
 
Faith-based partners in public health suicide prevention and intervention services 'should be willing and equipped to assist all people who seek their services, regardless of sexual orientation,' the study authors write.
 
The study is limited by a lack of detail about whether a participant's specific religion had stigmatizing views of sexual minorities, the authors note. Because the study population was drawn from an academic setting, it may not represent the general population, they add.
 
'We want to engage religious and faith-based providers in a way that benefits all people,' Blosnich said. 'Faith-based communities are major participants in suicide prevention. We just want to make sure that the services that people provide through faith-based organizations or through community faith partners reach everyone who comes to them for help, regardless of sexual orientation.' 
 
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Posted 15 April 2018 - 05:28 PM

That argument falls apart because the Muslims will kill gays where they find them but the gay promoters do not oppose Islam, only Christian which is the main target and obvious to all. It is Christ you hate, not the gays you claim to love. They are just a tool that serves a purpose.


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Posted 16 April 2018 - 02:38 PM

Well this is what God had to say about himself, funny how so few seem to ask that question !

 

Isa 43:10  Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Isa 43:11  I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Isa 43:12  I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God.
Isa 43:13  Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it?

 

 

God is Spirit and he can only be worshiped in the spirit;
 

 

Joh 4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Rom 8:9  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his

 

At what point are those that want to mock the Christians, going to get enough knowledge to actually understand what the Christian faith is all about. Because at this stage the mockers just seem to look stupid. Kind of like the jokes about pearly gates and sitting in clouds when the idea has no basis in reality.


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Posted 17 April 2018 - 11:12 AM

Marijuana is part of its religion, says Jurupa Valley church fighting city to stay open
 
 
 
 
 
 
April 16, 2018
 
 
 
 
 
 
Pipes used to smoke marijuana for a sacrament sit in a corner as minister Gilbert Aguirre conducts Sunday service at Vault Church of Open Faith on Sunday, April 15, in Jurupa Valley. (Photo by Stan Lim, The Press-Enterprise/SCNG)
 
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An Inland church that uses marijuana to worship is embroiled in a bitter dispute with Jurupa Valley, which alleges the Vault Church of Open Faith is primarily a pot store and has been trying to shut it down for more than a year.
 
An association representing the church and about 15 others like it fired back Friday, April 13, filing a claim against the city seeking $1.2 million in damages and alleging harassment and discrimination. Church leaders say they smoke marijuana or eat edibles as part of spiritual meditation as a religious sacrament, but city officials say they're using religion as a front for selling pot.
 
City Manager Gary Thompson said Jurupa Valley's city attorney is reviewing the claim. Such a claim is often a precursor to the filing of a lawsuit.
 
The church's move comes as the city is pushing for a final decision to wrap up a suit Jurupa Valley brought in Riverside County Superior Court in early 2017 against what it maintains is an illegal dispensary. The Vault incorporated as a church in January and, as of Monday, April 16, was advertising on Weedmaps.
 
The feud also comes weeks before city voters will be asked in June to choose between dueling ballot measures and determine whether commercial cannabis enterprises should be allowed in Jurupa Valley. Marijuana businesses of all types are banned now.
 
Church officials say the battle is essentially a case of religious persecution through municipal zoning laws, that violate the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act of 2000.
 
Brent Fraser, a founder of the The Association of Sacramental Ministeries of which the Vault Church of Open Faith belongs, said city officials are singling out the Jurupa Valley fellowship because it uses marijuana as a sacrament in meditative and other religious exercises.
 
And it's not fair, Fraser said.
 
"We don't ever question when they serve wine to minors at Catholic churches," he said. "No one's trying to shut them down. That doesn't happen to the Catholic Church because that is their sacrament."
 
Fraser said cannabis has historically been used by other religions for many years, and it's a genuine expression of the Jurupa Valley church's faith.
 
"It's not a trick or anything like that," Fraser said. "What law enforcement tends to do is think that everyone is faking it so that they can get stoned. That's just not true.
 
"These are not dispensaries. They are spiritual centers. They are healing centers," he said.
 
Cannabis-oriented churches have begun to proliferate across the state in the wake of the legalization of recreational marijuana, which took effect at the first of the year after passage of Proposition 64, a 2016 ballot measure.
 
Thompson, the city manager, said the Vault continues to operate as a dispensary in a city that bars any type of marijuana enterprise. Despite recreational marijuana becoming legal across the state, municipalities have the ability to permit or ban cannabis businesses in their communities.
 
"The bottom line is they are selling marijuana illegally," Thompson said. "We have proof of that."
 
Court documents state that a city undercover investigator purchased marijuana Dec. 28, 2016. Shortly afterwards, the city sued the Vault.
 
"At that time, it was never identified as a religious establishment," Thompson said.
 
Matthew Pappas, attorney for the Lake Forest-based association, said, "It was a secular dispensary before. That is true. We're not going to say that it wasn't."
 
But he said the Vault has undergone a conversion since.
 
According to state records, the Vault Church of Open Faith filed articles of incorporation with the California secretary of state on Jan. 19 of this year.
 
Conversion and incorporation aside, Thompson said the Vault appears to still be selling pot.
 
"This particular location is also advertising on Weedmaps," Thompson said. "It just seems kind of odd that any religious organization would sell a sacrament when it is administered as part of a religious ceremony."
 
The Weedmaps marijuana sales website listed The Vault Church at 5024 Etiwanda (Ave.) as a dispensary. Various strains of pot were listed as being for sale for $40 for an eighth of an ounce, and for $80 for a quarter ounce. Some were priced lower; some higher.
 
Pappas, the attorney, said the Vault reluctantly allowed Weedmaps to classify the church as a dispensary in its directory.
 
"Weedmaps doesn't have a church category," Pappas said, saying he hopes to change that.
 
He said the church is using the Weedmaps listing as a tool for its missionary outreach.
 
"Weedmaps happens to be  a venue that people go to when they are looking for cannabis," he said. "We are trying to grow the membership of the church."
 
As for the church, it's a small one that meets in the corner of a converted single-family residence in Jurupa Valley.
 
Services are Sunday mornings. Cannabis, said Fraser, enters into the worship picture typically during a meditative or similar exercise.
 
On Sunday, April 15, several members smoked pot during the service and at one point a minister helped a member smoke the cannabis sacrament through a pipe.
 
Fraser said there are about 15 other churches within the circle of fellowship that includes the Vault Church of Open Faith. Most are in Orange, Los Angeles, Riverside and San Bernardino counties, with a few in Washington state. Several more are expected to form shortly, he said.
 
"The churches are not just a place where you pick up your weed and split," Fraser said.
 
They are places where genuine worship and fellowship is practiced, he said, saying the faith is less about a particular deity than about extolling virtues such as kindness, compassion, nurturing and a spirit of brotherhood.
 
"Whatever you call your God, bring your God here," Fraser said. "We will find a way to harmonize, rather than to fight with you."
 
"The moniker of open faith means that we welcome everybody," he said.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 11:59 AM

Who gives a fk about some godless jew scum ...?
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Posted 17 April 2018 - 12:03 PM

That argument falls apart because the Muslims will kill gays where they find them but the gay promoters do not oppose Islam, only Christian which is the main target and obvious to all. It is Christ you hate, not the gays you claim to love. They are just a tool that serves a purpose.


Same goes for blacks pedophiles etc.
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