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#1 grog

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 01:55 PM

Never forget that President Trump's soldiers are illegal invaders in Syria
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
June 19, 2018
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Syria - Ready To Start The Daraa Campaign.
 
There are signs that the long expected liberation of the Daraa region in southwest Syria is about to begin. 
 
After a month of negotiations between Russia, Israel, Jordan and the U.S. no peaceful solution has been found. 
 
The various terrorist forces in the (green) area, including al-Qaeda aligned HTS and groups loyal to the Islamic State, have rejected all negotiations. 
 
For over a month Russian negotiators tried to convince locals to give up and to reconcile with the government. 
 
 
But the hardliners under the rebels have killed anyone who talked with the Russians. 
 
The U.S. government has warned against a Daraa operation and threatened to intervene.
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First airstrikes were launched by the Syrian government today against villages in the eastern part of the Deraa area. Some local fighting is ongoing. This is not yet the expected all out attack on the 'rebel' held areas but the testing of enemy forces. The Syrian army has assembled a large force to liberate the southwest. It includes ten thousands of soldiers, more than 100 tanks and lots of artillery. Short range air defenses have been moved into the area to protect the Syrian troops. A well coordinated attack on several front and multiple axes should allow for a quick victory.
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Israel, with U.S. backing, might intervene in such an operation even if it makes little sense to do so. The current state can not continue indefinitely. Any intervention might well lead to a war for which Israel is unprepared. The Syrian army is willing and able to hit back into Israel. After seven years of war it is not afraid of a fight.
 
The Russian military is warning of a false-flag "chemical incident" in Deir Ezzor governorate. The Syrian Observatory reports that Islamic State remnants in the southeastern desert and in the Rukban camp, both under cover of the U.S. occupied zone around al-Tanf, prepare for a large attack on Syrian government forces. It claims that such an attack is an attempt to occupy the zone between al-Tanf and Albu Kamal at the Euphrates. Both operation would be planned diversions intended to draw Syrian forces away from Deraa and could provide excuses for U.S. intervention on the opposition side.
 
Late Sunday an airstrike destroyed a building in the Harri area near Albu Kamal directly on the Syrian-Iraqi border. The building was used as a headquarter for the Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces (PMU) who are securing the border in coordination with the Syrian army in the fight against the Islamic State. More than 20 fighters were killed and more than 10 were wounded. This may have been in preparation for the reportedly planned large ISIS attack.
 
The strike makes otherwise little military sense. The PMU are nominally under command of the Iraqi government. They used a house on the Syrian side, some 200 meters from the border, as there was no adequate space on the Iraqi side. While they may have Iranian support and may help the Syrian army in some of its operations they are neither Iranian troops nor do they belong to the Lebanese Hezbullah.
 
The Syrian government accused the U.S. of having attacked the building. One U.S. source claims to CNN that the Israeli air-force attacked the site. I doubt that this is true. The U.S. has previously attacked Syrian government aligned forces in the area. It obviously continues to use ISIS to disrupt Syrian army operations. But as the U.S. needs Iraq it can not admit that it hit Iraqi forces. That would practically guarantee that the incoming Iraqi government would tell it to leave. It might have asked Israel to provide a cover for the strike.
 
Technically Israel could have done the attack. It would have needed tanker support and Jordanian compliance for overflight. Over the weekend Netanyahoo announced that Israel would hit Iranian forces all over Syria. But even CNN notes that the strike is untypical for Israel and does not make any sense.
 
Whoever committed the strike did so in an airspace that is controlled by the U.S. military. The leaders of the PMU in Iraq will use it to rally their forces against any U.S. bases in the country.
 
In north Syria Turkey is continuing its colonization of Syrian towns and regions. Turkish post offices, Turkish teachers, policemen and imans are pushing the population to adopt Turkish culture. It will more difficult to dislodge than the few thousand 'rebels' in the Deraa region.
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#2 grog

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 02:03 PM

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 02:22 PM

Trump Invades Syria
 
 
 
 
 
 
March 8, 2017
 
 
 
 
 
 
Although the Syrian army, with its ally Russia, has made significant gains against ISIS over the past week or so, the Washington Post is reporting tonight that President Trump has for the first time sent regular US military personnel into that country in combat positions. This is an unprecedented escalation of US involvement in the Syrian war and it comes without Congressional authorization, without UN authorization, and without the authorization of the government of Syria. In short it is three ways illegal.
 
According to the Post, US Marines have departed their ships in the Mediterranean and have established an outpost on Syrian soil from where they will fire artillery toward the ISIS "headquarters" of Raqqa. The Post continues:
 
The Marines on the ground include part of an artillery battery that can fire powerful 155-millimeter shells from M777 Howitzers, two officials said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the deployment. The expeditionary unit's ground force, Battalion Landing Team 1st Battalion, 4th Marines, will man the guns and deliver fire support for U.S.-backed local forces who are preparing an assault on the city. Additional infantrymen from the unit are likely to provide security.
 
On March 5th, RT ran footage of a US military convoy entering Syria near Manbij. The US mainstream media initially blacked out the story, but the Post today confirmed that the troops were from the Army's 75th Ranger Regiment in Stryker vehicles.
 
What is important to understand about this sudden escalation of US involvement is that if this "race to Raqqa" is won by the US military rather than by Syrian government forces, the chance that the US will hand the territory back to the Assad government is virtually nil. In other words, this is an operation far less about wiping ISIS out from eastern Syria and much more about the United States carving out eastern Syria as a permanent outpost from where it can, for example, continue the original neocon/Israeli/Saudi plan for "regime change" in Syria.
 
The United States is making a military bid for a very large chunk of sovereign Syrian territory. Something even Obama with his extraordinarily reckless Middle East policy would not dare to do.
 
How will the Russians react to this development? How will the Russians react if increased US military activity on the ground in Syria begins to threaten Russian military forces operating in Syria (with the consent of that country's legal government)? With President Trump's "get along with Russia" policy lying in the tatters of a Nikki Haley at the UN and a Fiona Hill at NSC Staff, how differently might the Russians see US actions in Syria than they might have only a month or so ago?
 
Make no mistake: this is big news. And very bad news.
 
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#4 grog

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 02:49 PM

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 04:58 PM

US Is Now Basically in an Illegal War With Syria and Nobody's Talking About It
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
June 7, 2017
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
If you were to check the headlines, the home pages, or even the back pages of the world's largest media outlets right now, you would have no idea that just yesterday, the U.S. launched an illegal act of war against another sovereign government. If you were fortunate enough to see the story buried beneath the more scandalous news stories we are becoming used to, you wouldn't think much of it either - just another day in Syria, right?
 
The media doesn't want you to question these developments because they want them to unfold without question. Reporting on these issues would create a dialogue, and out of dialogue comes dissenting opinion.
 
Consider that the last time the U.S. bombed troops operating under the banner of the Syrian Arab Army (barely a month ago), the Independent ran a story that highlighted how this strike was a lot more significant than we were told. One can see why, from the establishment's standpoint, it is better to have no discussion at all lest the truth break through the cracks of an overly crooked media paradigm.
 
And the cold hard truth needs to come to light: the U.S. has illegally invaded Syria's territory. The fact that the Syrian military cannot realistically drive the U.S. military out (especially while it is embroiled in numerous battles with ISIS and other radical guerrilla forces) does not constitute tacit acceptance of the U.S. military presence there. In fact, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has called the U.S. and its associated forces "invaders" numerous times because the U.S. has no legal basis to operate inside Syrian territory.
 
On top of this unwarranted invasion, the U.S. claims it has the right to defend itself from troops loyal to Syria's current government. It also claims it has the right to defend forces that operate under the control of the U.S.-led coalition. This is not a new proposal under Donald Trump; Barack Obama authorized U.S. air power to defend the U.S.-trained fighting forces in Syria, even if that meant attacking Syrian government troops.
 
Trump is just following the manual, with one key difference. Trump has empowered his military generals to make all these decisions for him and call in airstrikes whenever they feel like it, something that was impossible under Obama. According to the Guardian, this means Iraqi forces on the ground in Iraq can call in air support from the U.S.-led coalition. These are the same Iraqi troops that have been documented committing revenge acts, torture, and outright massacres. These people have been entrusted to call in your taxpayer-funded machines of death. The result, as we have seen, is that civilians are being buried at unprecedented rates.
 
And where will this lead the United States? Without any congressional discussion, public debate, or any form of democratic process, America could formally be at war with the Syrian government and its allies as soon as tomorrow, and no one would be able to stop it. All it takes is a calculated or misguided response from the Syrian military, and the U.S. will again be at war with another foreign entity. In this context, Syria and its allies have shown incredible restraint in the face of such aggression.
 
Unfortunately, this restraint has come to an end. The pro-Assad alliance just issued a statement in response, warning the U.S. that they will strike back and hit U.S. positions within Syria if these red lines continue to be crossed. The alliance even released a video of an Iranian drone secretly filming an American bomber to demonstrate their capabilities. It is not clear if Russia was a signatory to the warning, but multiple reports indicate that Russia has been providing airpower to these Assad loyalists, further signaling a disastrous road ahead.
 
Donald Trump is wildly unpopular by democratic standards. And yet, if Mexico wanted to invade American territory, establish a training base to train rebels to claim American soil as their own, then claimed these forces had the right to strike any forces loyal to Trump who came within range of that base, most people would dismiss this as an absurd notion and a flagrant act of aggression on Mexico's part, regardless of the number of people opposed to Trump's administration.
 
This is exactly what the U.S. is doing to Syria and has been doing across the globe for some time now. The media doesn't want you to talk about this because they want you to sleepwalk into the next confrontation with Syria, and most probably Iran and Russia, their long-time adversaries.
 
If the United States believes it has a right to defend itself from Syrian-aligned troops thousands of miles away from the American continent, does Syria not equally have a right to defend themselves from an invading force on their own soil? If Syria's alleged criminal acts are enough to disregard international legal standards and launch a counterattack, what, then, should we make of America's vast history of criminal behavior?
 
The media might not want you to discuss this event for what it was: an illegal act of aggression - but the historians that survive this conflict might remember it differently.
 
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#6 Ivan88

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 05:01 PM

What every real Syrian in the world is saying about Yankee terrorist invaders:


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#7 grog

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 05:10 PM

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#8 wirehaired

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 07:20 PM

Never forget that President Trump's soldiers are illegal invaders in Syria
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
June 19, 2018 the invaders should have been confronted from day one,the Turks will have to be sent home in sacks,those bastards are still in Northern Cyprus after decades.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Syria - Ready To Start The Daraa Campaign.
 
There are signs that the long expected liberation of the Daraa region in southwest Syria is about to begin. 
 
After a month of negotiations between Russia, Israel, Jordan and the U.S. no peaceful solution has been found. 
 
The various terrorist forces in the (green) area, including al-Qaeda aligned HTS and groups loyal to the Islamic State, have rejected all negotiations. 
 
For over a month Russian negotiators tried to convince locals to give up and to reconcile with the government. 
 
 
But the hardliners under the rebels have killed anyone who talked with the Russians. 
 
The U.S. government has warned against a Daraa operation and threatened to intervene.
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First airstrikes were launched by the Syrian government today against villages in the eastern part of the Deraa area. Some local fighting is ongoing. This is not yet the expected all out attack on the 'rebel' held areas but the testing of enemy forces. The Syrian army has assembled a large force to liberate the southwest. It includes ten thousands of soldiers, more than 100 tanks and lots of artillery. Short range air defenses have been moved into the area to protect the Syrian troops. A well coordinated attack on several front and multiple axes should allow for a quick victory.
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Israel, with U.S. backing, might intervene in such an operation even if it makes little sense to do so. The current state can not continue indefinitely. Any intervention might well lead to a war for which Israel is unprepared. The Syrian army is willing and able to hit back into Israel. After seven years of war it is not afraid of a fight.
 
The Russian military is warning of a false-flag "chemical incident" in Deir Ezzor governorate. The Syrian Observatory reports that Islamic State remnants in the southeastern desert and in the Rukban camp, both under cover of the U.S. occupied zone around al-Tanf, prepare for a large attack on Syrian government forces. It claims that such an attack is an attempt to occupy the zone between al-Tanf and Albu Kamal at the Euphrates. Both operation would be planned diversions intended to draw Syrian forces away from Deraa and could provide excuses for U.S. intervention on the opposition side.
 
Late Sunday an airstrike destroyed a building in the Harri area near Albu Kamal directly on the Syrian-Iraqi border. The building was used as a headquarter for the Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces (PMU) who are securing the border in coordination with the Syrian army in the fight against the Islamic State. More than 20 fighters were killed and more than 10 were wounded. This may have been in preparation for the reportedly planned large ISIS attack.
 
The strike makes otherwise little military sense. The PMU are nominally under command of the Iraqi government. They used a house on the Syrian side, some 200 meters from the border, as there was no adequate space on the Iraqi side. While they may have Iranian support and may help the Syrian army in some of its operations they are neither Iranian troops nor do they belong to the Lebanese Hezbullah.
 
The Syrian government accused the U.S. of having attacked the building. One U.S. source claims to CNN that the Israeli air-force attacked the site. I doubt that this is true. The U.S. has previously attacked Syrian government aligned forces in the area. It obviously continues to use ISIS to disrupt Syrian army operations. But as the U.S. needs Iraq it can not admit that it hit Iraqi forces. That would practically guarantee that the incoming Iraqi government would tell it to leave. It might have asked Israel to provide a cover for the strike.
 
Technically Israel could have done the attack. It would have needed tanker support and Jordanian compliance for overflight. Over the weekend Netanyahoo announced that Israel would hit Iranian forces all over Syria. But even CNN notes that the strike is untypical for Israel and does not make any sense.
 
Whoever committed the strike did so in an airspace that is controlled by the U.S. military. The leaders of the PMU in Iraq will use it to rally their forces against any U.S. bases in the country.
 
In north Syria Turkey is continuing its colonization of Syrian towns and regions. Turkish post offices, Turkish teachers, policemen and imans are pushing the population to adopt Turkish culture. It will more difficult to dislodge than the few thousand 'rebels' in the Deraa region.
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Posted 14 August 2018 - 10:18 AM

Washington's Rebuff Of Russia's Cooperation Request In Syria Shows Its Cynicism
 
 
 
 
 
August 13, 2018
 
 
 
 
 
The head of the Russian Armed Forces General Staff Valery Gerasimov asked his closest American counterpart Joseph Dunford to assist his country in jointly stabilizing Syria.
 
Gen. Joe Dunford (left) and Gen. Valery Gerasimov (right), Helsinki, Finland, June 8, 2018
 
Reuters reported that the proposal to cooperate on the repatriation of refugees and reconstruction projects in the Arab Republic was met with an "icy reception" by US decision makers, though this could have been expected considering that Washington had previously said that any assistance that it might provide to the government-controlled areas of Syria would be tied to the implementation of UNSC 2254's constitutional reform and new elections.
 
Furthermore, President Assad declared in late June that his government wouldn't accept reconstruction funds from the same countries that contributed to destroying his own, though if the leaked details of Gerasimov's message to Dunford are to be believed, then Russia's assessment is that Damascus "lacks the equipment, fuel, other material, and funding needed to rebuild the country in order to accept refugee returns", hence the reason for reaching out to the US.
 
While there were high hopes that Presidents Putin and Trump might have reached an understanding on Syria during last month's Helsinki Summit, it appears as though expectations might be dashed after this latest setback.
 
The US veritably has an interest in focusing its reconstruction efforts and post-war development projects on the Kurdish-controlled proxy state in the northeastern agriculturally and energy-rich corner of the country that it's already deployed roughly two thousand troops to, so there's a certain logic to rebuffing the latest Russian offer. Even though the Kurds and Damascus have reportedly entered into talks with one another, this is unlikely to lead to the dissolution of the US' protectorate and will probably find a way to "formalize" it through mutually acceptable "compromises" that figure into the ongoing constitutional reform process.
 
Although the leaking of Gerasimov's proposal to Dunford was probably done by Trump's "deep state" enemies in a desperate attempt to undermine what they may have feared was the President's "secret deal" with Putin, it inadvertently harms the US' soft power standing because it confirms that America doesn't really care about the welfare of the Syrian people or the return of refugees from the region and beyond in spite of its repeated statements to the contrary over the years.
 
Making humanitarian and developmental assistance conditional on political factors is Machiavellian to the core but unsurprising to those who have a solid understanding of the cynicism behind American strategic planning. It's also proof that the US is indirectly weaponizing refugees and developmental assistance in order to advance its objectives, something that its supporters have always denied but which is now undebatable.
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#10 grog

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 01:38 PM

 

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 05:42 PM

There is nothing to talk about with the US invaders in Syria,the only thing they understand is confrontation,and I hope they get it.


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Posted 15 August 2018 - 11:54 AM

The US invasion of Syria is just as legal as the US terrorist war on Syria it has been running for years.

The USA attempt to murder the mother of Western Civilization & all Christen Israel is legal according to the Talmud which the USA has adopted as the "bedrock of civilization".

 

Thus while USA is acting unlawfully, the Talmudic Noahide code,  that takes us back to 30 A.D., makes it all legal.

 

What the stupid, deluded & insane Christians of Europe & North America don't know is that this Noahide code makes them illegal and subject to extermination by decapitation via guillotine or any other means just as the USA has been and  is killing Christians in Syra, Libya, Africa, Ukraine, Serbia, Afghanistan etc. 

 

So while Christians worry about the coming of some mighty anti-Christ, they are busy supporting anti-Christs to turn whole world into an Anti-Christ utopia where all of Mankind are slaves on Talmudist people farms/plantations, 100% subject to the whims of those who hate them.


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Posted 15 August 2018 - 03:33 PM

 
 
 
 

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 05:05 PM

I think that the deal being made with Russia is that the Israel-US accept defeat and in exchange Iran will not establish a military foothold in Syria. Unfortunately when it comes to destabilization Israel-US dictate the terms, they can't win the war now but they can make life miserable for Syria.


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Posted 16 August 2018 - 01:23 PM

 
 

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Posted 16 August 2018 - 02:08 PM

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#17 Ivan88

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Posted 16 August 2018 - 05:19 PM

Why they hate us: Actually they hate our freedom to torment, kill and destroy their lives and the lives of their friends, neighbors, family etc.

 

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A sight we should never have to see - child sized graves for the 29 victims of a USA supported airstrike on their school bus in Yemen.

Congratulations stupid "Americans" making friends with bombs:

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Posted 16 August 2018 - 06:47 PM

I think that the deal being made with Russia is that the Israel-US accept defeat and in exchange Iran will not establish a military foothold in Syria. Unfortunately when it comes to destabilization Israel-US dictate the terms, they can't win the war now but they can make life miserable for Syria.

As long as they are in Syria there will be no peace,they have to be thrown out,and that includes the Turks.

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 03:58 PM

As long as the illegal immigrants that invaded North American 500 years ago or so, claiming to be Americans, refuse to confess their sins and change their murderous, covetous mentality of perpetual war, there are only more disasters waiting to cast these illegal & unlawful immigrants out and trod them under foot.


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Posted 17 August 2018 - 05:16 PM

As long as the illegal immigrants that invaded North American 500 years or so claiming to be Americans refuse to confess their sins and change their murderous, covetous mentality of perpetual war, there are only more disasters waiting to cast these illegal & unlawful immigrants out and trod them under foot.

Good luck with that one.
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