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#1 Vanka Savolov

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 06:58 PM

There's a new (different) term that has turned up lately: "voluntarism". It is defined a like this:

 

1.
the principle of relying on voluntary action (used especially with reference to the involvement of voluntary organizations in social welfare).
2.
PHILOSOPHY
the doctrine that the will is a fundamental or dominant factor in the individual or the universe.

 

I've highlighted the concept in bold/italicized letters as it pertains to/in philosophy.  As I remember it, we had agreed that most, if not all social orders fail when a few, call it government, form a notion that they know what is best for everyone. And if said government is benevolent, and said order works well enough, then there seems to be someone who wishes to infiltrate the otherwise benevolent government and tear it down from the inside. 

 

These people have control issues, as in: they like to control the lives of others. And if a social order is working, and people are free to do as needed to meet their basic needs, then that's an social order that is difficult to control, hence the desire to tear it apart.

 

In all my studies of the various social orders, Imperialism and capitalism are the worst. 

 

Here's a little story regarding tribal orders of the indigenous peoples from all around the world, I'm reiterating mostly the commonalities among these peoples. 

 

Most anywhere you go, there will be people living near the coast line, and others living in the mountains, and yet others living in the flat-lands. Those near the coast will have plenty of sea food, a stock of seashells and the like that they can freely trade, The flat-landers will have a range of meats form the various animals who free range the prairies, and they have access to things like flint, precious stones and a climate worthy to plant and grow food items. The mountain people would have access to trees that grow at the higher elevations where  pinion nuts, pine cones and vines for weaving baskets is plentiful. It's a leisurely lifestyle to take any excess whatever and travel to nearby villages and trade, where from there, those who where involved in the trading can travel to other villages, until everything, every tribe has to offer, is distributed throughout the region.

 

Maybe the coast dweller are tired of eating fish, much of the time, but know very little about trapping/hunting game animals. With a few days travel, they can be in a region where game animals are plentiful and trade some dried fish and necklaces made from sea shells for some game meat,

 

I'm sure you can see what I'm getting at here, there was no need of money, just 'stuff' that is more common to an area in which one lives, that can be traded for things that aren't common in other area. 

 

The problem with capitalism is that it ALWAYS runs-a-muck, because someone gets greedy and wants a 'fast profit' and they want it NOW. Money can be a nice medium of exchange providing it has the same value, regardless of where is came from, and where it is spent. As soon any kind of 'usury' enters the picture, or any imposition of an exchange rate, the money will lose its value.

 

Where am I going with this? I always like to turn to Nature and see how she works. Nothing on this planet was not already here, before we got here. All of it is freely given to everyone, without exception. Nothing like ethnic upbringing, hair/eye/skin color is ever a consideration, nor is money required when Nature gives us her bounty of things. I've heard stories of forest dwellers who could go for a leisurely walk in the woods and find, free for the taking, everything to meet their basic needs, plus a whole lot more, e.g. firewood and medicinal plants, galore.

 

If Nature can, and actually does volunteer everything she has to offer, then why can't people do the same? We both know the answer to that question... and they are called busy-bodies aka meddlers, just a bunch of selfish people who want everything for themselves. 

 

I do my best to just give, and ask for nothing in return. and I do so voluntarily, which is what, and correct me if I'm wrong, socialism is all about.

 

Kind regards.

 


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Posted 11 October 2018 - 08:04 PM

I wholeheartedly agree with your condemnation of usury, imperialism and capitalism.

 

This Earth is for everyone equally and it is fully capable of meeting everyone's needs if only the greedy sick garbage would disappear. They are totally and completely responsible for hunger, disease and homelessness.


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Posted 11 October 2018 - 08:57 PM

Rather uplifting

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#4 Vanka Savolov

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 05:33 PM

Hi y'all!

 

I fall in to funny moods sometimes... that whole post is one of those: "no duh, Vanka" posts. I don't know... but I'm willing to try anything that's different from what we currently live with.

 

When I reread that. I can see undertones of a Globalist mindset. But don't we all already live on the same globe? As far as communication technologies are concerned, aren't we already a bunch of 'low-key' Globalists?

 

How would a, and I'm fusing langue here: Globaliseum Voluntarius* society work? If anyone can send off a letter or other parcel and/or communicate via the internet, to anyone else in the world, then aren't we basically already there? We already volunteer our time and ideas, on a daily basis. What I've left out is the material aspect of our lives. Time and ideas, are only tangible up to a point, then there must come a time when the ideas comes to the fore, and into reality. And at which point, said ideas become a material reality... and hopefully such is not only useful, but also safe, effective and affordable. I, personally don't see how we can forgo the use of money entirely, but its exclusive use for literally everything we do can be curtailed to a minimum, if only we work toward all that in a voluntary manner, on a global scale. 

 

Nature gave us everything we need to build houses, and shelters are most common need among all people, everywhere, and so is food and water. Why must we pay for these things? 

 

One thing that must go is that need to be compensated for the development information, and also the need to profit from the dissemination of information. I often ask myself: How many people are out there that could to great things for everyone, if they only had access to the information, without having to pay for it? Just think of the potentially many people who have bright minds, but they do not have the money to educate themselves in a manner where they can fully express their ideas, shape their inventions in a manner that is both simple and effective? 

 

All one needs to know is the basics of their trade, art, profession and so on. Like those who wish to invent mechanical devices, the need for safety instructions, when using machinery is of vital importance, lest the machine's misuse lead to injury or death. What kind of materials to use, and where to use them is important as well. But, must we pay for such knowledge? I say: NO! I managed to teach/train myself, without paying anything for learning the knowledge and skills to do what interests me most. And that's the other thing about paying for such, if one spends too much money learning something, only to discover that when they actually apply the knowledge in real life, they are not happy. They have taken on a study of interest, intellectually, but the whole physical involvement, falls short of stimulating, and they become dissatisfied and they are stuck with having to pay off the loans for something that falls short of the "happiness factor" we need to complete a job in a satisfactory manner, like a job well done, consistently.

 

Having said all of that: I don't consider my self a "social engineer", but I do consider myself a "social theorist". And as it is, or should be, regards theories, they are 'things' intended to be tested and challenged by others. Once everyone has tested it to see if it's tried and true, then, and only then should such become a part of our daily lives.

 

Or, I could just form an army, via your tax dollars and shove it all IN YOUR FACE AND DOWN YOUR THROATS.... but that's what I want to be rid of... let us be the bosses of our own lives/selves, and weigh everything against everything else, and with our collective freewill, pick and choose what works best for the benefit of all.

 

*Globalist Volunteer: such a fashioning of words like: Globaliseum Voluntarius, would be consider "Glossa" if this were a 'legal' document. And of course, if this were a legal document, no lawyer would tell you that. But I would, because it's that kind of information that should be given, free of charge. Lawyers are scum-bags and legal documents are instruments of deception. We could live without all of that, because that's just another thing we pay for that is of little, if any value, and its over-priced, generally ineffective and limiting.


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#5 Vanka Savolov

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 07:16 PM

But there's always this missing factor, in life's equation, and that is: ...?

 

We've already covered this, I'm sure... more than several times... yes we have... and don't argue with me, lest I hire little green frogs to throw pebbles, in thine general direction.

(The following presentation of: Arrgh, Me Maties, Tis A Fine Thing, Indeed, and WTF!! Life Foundations, Inc (LLC) an ATWAS affiliate of GODS Unlimited, the parent company of Startreats--pastry construction and delivery services... we aim to please...  featured in Universal teknocolor/freaksound advanced interactives, an affiliate of We've been There And Done That; a feature-length documentary regards the most fundamental aspect of math: 1+1=2, and 1X1=1 and 1/1=1, and 1-1=0 so if a+b=c then c=1+1. 

 

Did I miss anything there? That was just addition I set the example of a+b=c. That same holds true for the rest. e.g.: a/b=c, and a-b=c and axb=c. Should we review that? Sure...

 

a+b=c, a-b=c, axb=c and a/b=c. What does 'c' represent? Do I really gotta tell you? 'c' is the solution, the answer, the other half of the equation... course it could be something else, by the shear weight and force of definition. 'c' could be anything, and anything is derived from addition, subtraction, multiplication and/or division as represented by a+b. a-b, axb, a/b. and they all equal 'c'. I'm just sayin' that 'c' is the answer, to each of these equations as only Universal teknocolor/freaksound advanced interactives can. (don't forget to try the pastries.)

 

a=1 and a=you, where b=1 and b=everything else, and where c=a+b; a-b; axb; a/b; respectively... and so, 1+1=2 (we covered that already) and 1-1=0 and 1x1=1 and 1/1=1.

 

That 0 sum for 'c', that's found, (and thus revealed) in the 1-1=0 equation. Well I checked it at least twice and 1-1=0, indeed. You can correct me if I'm wrong... but that 0 should be in first place, like this: 1-1=0 and then: 1x1=1 and then: 1/1=1 and finally: 1+1=2 or c=0, c=1, c=1 and c=2... 'c's been very busy, but not without the activity of a & b... you know, in the formula(s) shown, (in this post)? I digress...

 

0 1 1 2. 0+1+1+2=4 or c=4, because I said... so... if c=4 then what does a and b equal? a=c+b, and a=cxb, and a=c+a, and a=c-b and where cxa=b, and c/a=b and c-a=b

 

And so if c=4, then a=1 and b=3 or a=2 and b=2 or a=3 and b=1. Well, a=1 and a=you and b=1 and b=everything else. We already said that; c=4, right?

 

And as would one reason, since a=1 then must b=3. that is if 'c' indeed=4. 1+3=4, because 1+1=2, and 2+2=4 also... yes it does...


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#6 Vanka Savolov

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 08:28 PM

If 'c' is always the answer then what could this mean: ci3=... what?... I mean +/- 3% is close enough, right? if you want to just guess at it... but I believe that ci3 would equal 'c' as well, because 'c' is the answer, by definition, because I said so, remember? What ever it is, it equals 'c'. 

 

c=i3, because c=ci3, therefore 'c' is still the answer... for all equations, everywhere!... well maybe not everywhere... but close enough.

 

 


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Posted 13 October 2018 - 09:20 PM

Let me pose a little mathematical question here: if 'c'=dysfunctional, then what of a & b. What does that say about a & b? 'c' isn't always the answer, I must admit, because 'c' becomes a problem when a & b are in entropy. That's a negative by any measure. And so if 1-1=0 then -1-1= -2. Do that in multiples and it just gets stupid. But then there's that equation where -1x-1=1.  -ax-b=c and so c=1, as does axb and a/b, when 11 signs as ci3 and when c=1, meaning that c=you+everything else. or a+b=c.

 

001:REM: URC

002 :input$:A

003 :if A$=<I'm clueless> goto:010

004 :if A$=<I am the answer> goto;001

005 :REM: you are 'c'.

006 :REM: intentionally left blank

007 :REM: if 'c' is the answer, then the answer is you.

008 :REM: intentionally left blank

009 :if A$=<list sub7> :GOTO:010

010 :display// REM 005 and 007

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 09:40 PM

Hi Vanka,

Recuperating from a stupid virus.

Made a garbanzo bean soup with onions, celery, carrots, sweet peppers, parsley, salt, pepper, and fresh garlic.

Very therapeutic.

i can mean different things as can c.

I will take i as the sqare root of negative 1 and c as the velocity of light constant in vacuo

Your terms in some context can make sense

My notes were overwhelming but now make more sense

Looked at where matter "comes from"

Almost lost that one but just got it back

The E for Energy I put in a new "light"

Einstein made some blunders bigly

Regards, more to come...
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Posted 13 October 2018 - 09:45 PM

I'll look at your other notes, too.

Posted some photos, not new ones

They may scare the bejeebers out of some.

Anyone for Rawhide?
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Posted 13 October 2018 - 09:50 PM

Acronyms like WTF, ATWAS and are easy enough to decipher, but what of that GODS acronym? GODS means" Globally Organized Development Services and it's an employee owned and operated cooperative/volunteer organization run by the actors of this play: All The World's A Stage. (I think you are in there, somewhere.) a+b=c Yer 'a' remember? Therefore if: c=GODS then a+b=c or 1+1=2. 


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Posted 13 October 2018 - 10:17 PM

:) Oh. yeah?! Well... that one graphic of yours, I hadn't figured correctly... then too much time later it dawned on me, it's a controlled, and for the lack of a better term: a controlled gravity-wave. Controlled by, uh... people. (using advanced propulsion, that aren't too terrible 'new' just suppressed.)

 

An energy vacuum of sorts at the fore and an energy pressure at the aft. It creates an envelope within which inertia is canceled. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Does this statement make sense to you, shaktiman? Humanity needs to depressurize, because all of these pressures are negative... just the lies alone, and all that which is hidden not to mention 'b'. and so 'a'...


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Posted 13 October 2018 - 11:11 PM

I'm just sayin': negative pressures cuz, they sure do suck... like a vacuum... anything in its path... just a suckin' away... time and energy, finance and barter, travel and shelter, I don't care what it is... they'll be sucking on it. -bx-b=1 or -1x-1=1. if c=1, which math dictates that if c=1 then c-b=a and c-a=b, making a=.5 and where b=.5 and so .5+.5=1. It only gets freakier... because -ax-b is a most apt, uh... application, when c=4 is a target value... you know, assigned by me... and because such was derived from the four a-b-c equations where their sums added to 4. So if c=4 is the actual, then it's because these formulas that equate to c=4 must in their correctness, equate to 4 as well.

 

a-b=c, axb=c a/b=c a+b=c or 1-1=0 1x1=1 1/1=1 1+1=2, and where -1x-1=1. a=you and b=everything else, therefore: c=...?... four (4) is the number we're looking for here, c=4.

 

And so, a-b=c=0 and axb=c=1 and a/b=c=1 and a+b=c=2. and where the sum of these is 4, how to assign the various aspects a value, and forcing c=4. like changing the formula of a recipe, that's way-too-salty and so cutting back on the salt makes for c=4.  If I had to guess the current value of 'c' I'd say that: c=-a+-b or -1+-1=-2... but when done in multiplication, -1x-1=1, and still c=-ax-b, c=1 is closer to c=4. Get my drift?


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 01:39 AM

Revisions already? 'frade-so. I included a double negative formula:-1x-1=1 that makes five subsets to the new target of c=5. And yes. a=you and b=everything else. And so c=5, so now what? 

 

Run through your mind which of these subsets of c=5 are in need of adjusting, like as if there were not enough of one thing, and yet, too much of the other... cuz that's kinda the way it is.

 

a-b=c 1-1=0; -ax-b=c -1x-1=1; axb=c 1x1=1; a/b=c 1/1=1; a+b=c 1+1=2.  0+1+1+1+2=5 c=5.

 

Sorry for the confusion... so when you see 'c' it should equal 5. Assigning all the variables of which there are just two: a & b in five expressions, where each being unique =c or c=5 (+/- 0%). 

 

Ask yourself: what if b=? and a=you, then c=?. If you don't know what b is, then c never equates, unless c=a.  what is c then? c=a.

 

And factored through five subsets c can equal 0, 1, 1, 1, 2 or anyone subset variable you assign. Can you meet a target of 5 one c at a time?

 

It's all about "making a choice". a 'c' could be - or + and -2 is where c=-2, cuz, something about, uh... I think it was either a or b, but it doesn't matter because a & b equal c, and c is unequal to 5... c=-2... that's a seven point spread... maybe I should raise c to equal 7, where c=7... naw...


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 03:49 AM

abc chart.png

 

What good does all that craziness do, without a chart? I mean, seriously people...


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 02:29 PM

What good does all that craziness do, without a chart? I mean, seriously people...

 

Yes charts do help. 

 

It can be done.

 

In my work you might think of a vibrating string and infinite trigonometric series, that sometimes represent their motion. .

 

Math is tricky business.

 

It may be difficult at times for two researchers in the same field and working on similar issues to understand each other at all or even their notation.

 

That is problematic and even shameful.

 

My work is partially coded and leaves out things to keep the vermin away.

 

But the math that is visible is real.

 

In my work as with Perelman and others we may look at some sub-strata of Real Space or Real Space-Time and this concept of "sub Manifold" may even be in a very high real dimension. 

 

Can we "see" what's going on?

 

Aye, there's the rub!

 

Math equations may not quite do it.

 

Do I see more than that? Perhaps in a limited way. I've practiced many years.

 

 

The last loss of decoding I suffered came back regarding mass and its creation. I studied annihilation far too long and up came this.

 

When I retrieved it, it came back with a vengeance, perfectly in tact, but with so many new views I was flabbergasted.

 

 

 

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Posted 14 October 2018 - 02:51 PM

BTW

 

'c' could be - or +

 

  Certainly my "c" can.

 

Be a learner and ask Werner.

 

Sheez, US mathematicians and scientists sure have some heavy duty engineering, and high tech wonders as well as elegant fine work in their math but dag nab it, but they're still stupid.

 

What a bunch of grouches. 


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 02:53 PM

So is it, when you reach the other shore that you may push away the raft?

 

Sign of the Cross!


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 05:10 PM

Damn that was good... da boogie-blues, it proves the fact. 

 

What I "think" I'm gonna do is take that message board of mine... mine... MINE!... uh, and turn it into a Blog-Spot, barring everyone else from interacting, save for 'guest Bloggers.

 

Bloggers: rhymes with loggers. 

 

I'm just saying that when/if anyone should visit my message board, they can only read and will never be permitted to leave comment, via the blog (rhymes cog) spot, unless said comment is posted by a guest blogger, of whom's guest-blog session will be terminated. 

 

How about a whimsical look at everything 'b' can represent in relation to 'a' which is me/myself and I: or a3. Where otherwise a=1 and b=1 and where c=c5. The mere assignment of  a & b as a & b implies a 'c' must come to be, because a+b=c.

 

I'll blog out asymmetrical electrical systems, showcase original music, present renditions of many sorts and play with theory. Then there's those 33 (+2) for 35 characters w/their alter-egos, which makes for 70 distinct personalities. Each will list by name, w/gender assumed, with a ledger of +/- traits, in detail.   

 

Music, theory, science, humor, rhymes/poems, graphics, as well as imaginative/creative other things that fall under the heading: R&D or research and development.

 

All pictures and drawings and words and few videos, oh my!... All pictures and drawings and words and few videos, oh my!... All pictures and drawings and words and few videos, oh my! (mostly words, cuz I intended those 35 characters to 'stand-out' in print, only.) {but, the rest of it will probably have a lot of graphic things, like drawings and images of picture quality, prolly cuz they're pictures... I dunno, I haven't done the math yet.


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 07:03 PM

 Looks like the US government is ogling my work. 

 

Just posted names of state and federal judges and lawyers and others that got too much grease on their palms.

 

They are punk rat shit.

 

Some of the BIG corporations that handle the grease have Swiss bank accounts and funnel plenty to israeli banks. They can't and DID NOT keep their books straight. Mrs. Shaktiman CPA caught them - mostly Clinton shells. 

 

A friend and mentor of mine, a brilliant Chinese philosopher and scholar, swam to Hong Kong and knew Mao personally when Mao worked as a librarian, was lecturing at a Yoga class sponsored by a famous Tibetan lama.

 

There was rivalry because our common teacher, essentially the  Pope of all Confucians for want of a better ":title", was angry that he wasn't paid reverence.

 

He too knew Mao and had to get out of China by crossing the border somewhere in the Himalayas. Mao's men caught him, shot him in the head but he survived miraculously.

 

Anyway, the Confucian Pope sent his top students, also our "classmates" all of us trained in rather "sophisticated mind-body martial arts, to "rough him up". .They were all street wise as well, one had just killed a rival martial arts instructor I also knew and had gotten out after some palm greasing. Many cops,military and CIA contractors were part of the study of these things. Rough boys. 

 

There were as I recall about 5, 3 or 4 regulars and at least one "sleeper".

 

So the scholar talked about inner spirit  and in a short while the thugs approached him. He had called me to help when the rest of his K00K FOO disciples were busy eating yogurt and bean sprouts. 

 

I was in shape!!!!!!

 

I thought 5 on 1 ain't so bad.

 

I'm old now and I don't know how I did it but I got in front of the scholar BEFORE they did, though they started first.

 

They sensed a loss and a bloody mess in front of the yoga panties girls. They were fun to watch.

 

They tried in different combos of assaults two times more or so with the same result.

 

They were embarrassed to say the least.

 

They left.

 

I continued to give them hell after that,

 

My country better stop filling the courts and government agencies with crooks. I don't rightly cotton to that.

 

These bad scenes are because of ego.

 

Let the guy talk and they would of had their turn, but they were 100% assholes.

 

Moral of the story: God is good, humans are lower than vermin

 

Regards


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