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#1 zhurnalist

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 09:30 PM

To Brexit or to Bremain?

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#2 Bruce M Cow

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 10:49 PM

The English that I have no great love for have finally done something right leaving the EU .Now they need to leave NATO .The EU has not been good for Europe ,it has been a  disaster .Not sure what Bremain is .


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Posted 05 December 2018 - 03:38 PM

"Let us talk about social consequences. I am talking jobs, I am talking funding for schools, for hospitals, for public services, police on the beat, food on the table, homelessness. No future, locked out of Europe, the bloc the UK does most of its trade with."  

How did the UK manage to exist before the EU was created?    Can't they do it again?   Of course they can.  And they will.

Brexit is the logical choice to protect the shreds of the remaining British Empire, and the monarchy which the EU would render obsolete to the point of it being extinguished completely.

People have the right to protect their country from "governance by invasion" and any treaty can be broken on the grounds of national self-preservation.    The EU has no business trying to govern people who don't want it.   Government should always be by consent of the governed.

The EU, as a government, has nothing to offer.   EU politicians are chosen not by popular election but by appointment.    British people want to keep their current government and independence, and not become a satellite colony governed by agents located in Brussels or Berlin.   Local control creates local harmony, a better government.

America fought a revolutionary war against the British in order to gain independence.   It is to Britain's credit that it voted for independence rather than declare war on the EU.

 


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Posted 05 December 2018 - 06:39 PM

On balance I decided to cast my vote to remain in the EU,not because I have any great love for it but because I believe brexit will damage the economy for years to come,the whole thing has become a disaster,some idiots think we can just walk away after fourty years and thousands of laws and agreements and everything will be ok,its unleashed petty Nationalism and in some cases ugly racism,we also have right wing Politicians who would be quite happy to turn Britain into some offshore tax haven for the rich and attack the rights of workers,the so called deal that May is trying to push through Parliament is worse than what we have now,some people seem prepared to vote to be poorer as long as they get a blue passport,better the devil you know,and being inside the EU we can fight to get changes.


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#5 Bruce M Cow

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 09:02 PM

The white English are starving. in the streets as the Immigrants take their homes and food .Their kids are taken away as prostitutes to service Blacks and Muslims .Say a word and you go to prison .About time the English slaves take back their country by taking to the streets and attacking the police.They will need to hang the traitors along with many jews .Nationalism is the only hope we all have .Send the brown and black races packing .


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Posted 05 December 2018 - 10:10 PM

The white English are starving. in the streets as the Immigrants take their homes and food .Their kids are taken away as prostitutes to service Blacks and Muslims .Say a word and you go to prison .About time the English slaves take back their country by taking to the streets and attacking the police.They will need to hang the traitors along with many jews .Nationalism is the only hope we all have .Send the brown and black races packing .

You are talking nonsense,immigrants are not taking homes and food,immigrants from the EU tend to work and pay taxes,now if you are talking about illegal immigrants that might have something to do with Britain acting as a US puppet and bombing the Countries the illegal immigrants come from,the people to blame for some not having a home or not enough to eat are the Government who have brought in savage austerity on poor people and workers,we have food banks for gods sake,that isn't the fault of immigrants its the criminal Politicians bailing out the Bankers and making the rest off us pay,i admire the French,they don't take this shit lying down


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#7 Zharkov

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 10:33 PM

Laws are mere pieces of paper that can be abolished more quickly than they were written.

There are two different objectives at work in the EU:

1.   Open trade between nations;

2.   Centralized government for all of Europe.

 

The first objective can be reached easily by treaties and agreements with existing national governments.

 

The second objective is irrelevant to trade but was slipped into the trade argument by stealth.

 

Unwinding the 2nd objective need not disturb the first objective.   They always were separate goals.

 

Trade deals do not require a central government or central planning.


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#8 Bruce M Cow

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 10:47 PM

The cold weather death toll this winter is expected to top 40,000, the highest number for 15 years. 

The figures were described as a “tragedy for the elderly” by campaigners who warned that not enough was being done to protect pensioners from unnecessary deaths in cold weather. 

Malcolm Booth, chief executive of the National Federation of Occupational Pensioners, said: “Excess winter deaths look like rising above the exceptional 2008-09 total and potentially reaching above 40,000 - and that is a disaster for the elderly in Britain. 

“Winter deaths are a tragedy for families of those affected but it appears the underlying causes of these deaths have still not been properly addressed. 

From the beginning of December until January 16, there were 8,800 more deaths than average of 25,000, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).


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#9 Bruce M Cow

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 10:49 PM

Idiot English care more about Illegals then their own who stave to death.


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Posted 05 December 2018 - 10:51 PM

England is going Black and Brown and Muslim .


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#11 Bruce M Cow

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 11:13 PM

England has become a joke and it won't be long before they dump the Queen in the gutter and take her wagon,strip her down and publicly rape her.That's how it goes in third world crap holes.


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Posted 06 December 2018 - 11:43 AM

"Let us talk about social consequences. I am talking jobs, I am talking funding for schools, for hospitals, for public services, police on the beat, food on the table, homelessness. No future, locked out of Europe, the bloc the UK does most of its trade with."  

How did the UK manage to exist before the EU was created?    Can't they do it again?   Of course they can.  And they will.

Brexit is the logical choice to protect the shreds of the remaining British Empire, and the monarchy which the EU would render obsolete to the point of it being extinguished completely.

People have the right to protect their country from "governance by invasion" and any treaty can be broken on the grounds of national self-preservation.    The EU has no business trying to govern people who don't want it.   Government should always be by consent of the governed.

The EU, as a government, has nothing to offer.   EU politicians are chosen not by popular election but by appointment.    British people want to keep their current government and independence, and not become a satellite colony governed by agents located in Brussels or Berlin.   Local control creates local harmony, a better government.

America fought a revolutionary war against the British in order to gain independence.   It is to Britain's credit that it voted for independence rather than declare war on the EU.

 

 

The English, French , American, Bolshevik and Chinese revolutions were all financed by the banksters. I am not sure what the Rothschilds had in mind when they concocted this Brexit episode but unfortunately independence is not an option for anyone.


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#13 Marmoset

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 11:43 AM

England is going Black and Brown and Muslim .

 

Jews

 

But still ruled by the Jews.


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