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#1 Bruce M Cow

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 09:57 PM


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Posted 24 January 2020 - 10:00 PM

The World Health Organization (WHO) Model for Transmissibility
WHO keeps track of all identified viruses, animal or human, through a set of phases or stages.

Phase 1: In this stage, viruses are only passed animal to animal. There is no human transmission.
Phase 2: The animal virus strain is transmitted to the first humans. Misdiagnosis is the rule of thumb which prevents the authorities from acting decisively from stopping the spread.
Phase 3: Small clusters of human beings have contracted the virus in one community, but it quickly spreads to other clusters. In this scenario, 2 becomes 4, becomes 16, becomes 256, becomes 65,356, becomes in excess of 4 billion. This is what we mean by “spreading exponentially”.
Phase 4: now, human-to-human virus transmission are causing outbreaks in many areas. This is where the exponential spread begins.
Phase 5: With international travel, human-to-human transmission is taking place in at least two countries in one WHO region. This phase is the point where most governments will implement counter-measures. Governments and health officials must be ready to implement their pandemic mitigation plans.
Phase 6: A global pandemic is underway. Don’t worry, most viruses have an approximate 10% immunity rate, so even in the worst case scenario, there will be significant numbers of survivors. This is where we typically would see martial law implemented.
Post-Pandemic Considerations: At some point, there becomes “burn out” where transmission rates decline. The focus at this time is to prevent the echo effect of a second wave.
The time span for phases 1 through 6 may take place over several months to many years. This one fact makes this particular virus and its mutations and spread to be very suspicious.

Transmission is increased due to today’s level of increased international travel. An international flight could have several domestic “patient zeros” in place, after landing, before ethe world ever knew what hit them

The near open border status of the United States makes containment, mostly through our southern border, all but guarantees the entry of pathogens into the United States for which most Americans have no immunity. Our southern border is a ticking time bomb and something catastrophic will eventually cross our southern border with catastrophic consequences. Oh, but it you talk about this, the liberals will call you a racist!

The Present Crisis
The present situation is anything but normal. I have managed to get two epidemiologists to speak with me on conditions of anonymity. One said she was afraid for her life, the other stated that his academic career would never survive his “hitting the panic button,” but hitting the panic button is exactly what it is time to do.

Both sources are convinced that there is nothing normal about the rapid mutations which are leading to pandemic conditions. Both stated that the CHICOs are talking a good game, but with over 20 million quarantined citizens, extreme measures to stop the spread (eg cutting off of inter-province travel), should have already been strictly enforced. Martial law should have been employed by troops in hazmat suits. What had both sources concerned was the rapidity of the mutations. They were also concerned about the World Health Organization’s lack of uniform and strongly recommended containment practices. If the Chinese were as inept as it appears, the UN should have had personnel on the ground instructing them on proper containment techniques which are not in place.

The lack of standard information regarding the Corona virus was also a point of contention. As of today, we have no firm guidelines on basic information such as the standard incubation period, the primary method of transmission, other than the standard set of very generalized suspects (eg lack of hygiene, sneezing, shaking hands, etc), the anticipated death rate and the migration patterns of the virus. Amazingly, for the United States, a person near ground zero for the virus can still board transportation culminating in boarding an international bound plane and end up in the United States. Both sources were shocked that we, as a nation, have not already cut off both primary and direct plane routes out of China, as well as secondary routes (eg Beijing to Mexico City to Los Angles. And of course there is the 800 pound elephant on the room, international trade). Tens of thousands of products and people enter our country each day, many from China, as part of the international trade genre. We know that if the authorities were to acquire information that the Cascadian subduction zone was to blow up and 18 vicious volcanos were to explode, nobody would be warned in advance because of the threat to property values, insurance and the general economy. The same is true with regard to the containment of a pandemic. Business must go on and any curtailing of international trade would likely occur after it was too late to do anything about it.

Because of the incubation effect, we can now assume that the virus has spread to every continent. Add to this that most pandemics spread exponentially, once they get going, there is nothing that nation states can do to stem the tide. The only option, even at this early state of the problem, is to impost medical martial law, which really translates to actual martial law.

This is where things get very critical. I have learned from a confidential informant that Pete Gaynor, acting FEMA Director, has told the President the only way to stop the spread of the virus is complete medical martial law and generally, this entails the following:

Nobody can travel outside their home, even in a medical emergency.
Suspension of all public gatherings of any type. No school, no church, etc.
Enact geographic quarantines for cities until the crisis is over. This means troops will isolate every single metropolitan area.
To try and lessen the inevitable food riots, FEMA in hazmat suits go house to house, in wealthier neighborhoods where there is the likelihood of excess food storage. Excess food will be taken rom raided homes and distributed as best as can be established.
Checkpoint Charlies’ will be established and extreme measures will be employed to ensure containment. There will be multiple concentric zones imposed with various perimeters, all designed to contain a pandemic.
Under EO 13603, all medical personnel will be conscripted. They will not be used to treat the public, but to treat that martial law enforcement personnel.
As the crisis unfolds and becomes a staple of daily life, containment camps (ie medical FEMA camps will be established). Treatment will not be an option, these camps will be one big hospice. Burning dead bodies is a likely outcome as is late-stege euthanasia..
Military forces, including all nuclear facilities will be on high alert because this is when America is most vulnerable to attack.
This one will make most people cringe. Extreme border control policies would immediately go into effect. People crossing the border run the risk of being shot!
No political leader will ever follow these guidelines until it is too late because of the unpopularity of the approach as well as the economic ramifications. Unfortunately, there is nothing in place to keep the Corona virus from running its course.I recently read a memo from DHS which advised personnel on how to iminuze their chances of contracting the virus. The memo was written in a manner which indicated inevitability of transmission

Part two of this series will examine the definite possibility this is a manufactured illness and a planned pandemic. Some sources are saying this is the first of many to come, some are just learning how to perfect the process. By Steve Hodges

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 10:03 PM






16 MILLON dead

Numbers doubling daily because WUHAN travelers spread the virus big time because of Chinese holiday, prior to lockdown and quarantine






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Posted 24 January 2020 - 10:04 PM

This could all be fake News that isn't real .

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 10:04 PM

Man who pushed SARS dud now pushing new Chinese virus

First, a few updates. Things are moving fast.


The Chinese government has locked down Wuhan, a city of 11 million people, owing to the "threat of the coronavirus." There are also travel restrictions in several other Chinese cities. What does all this prove?


Answer: Nothing.


It proves the Chinese government wants to install tighter controls. It doesn't lead to the conclusion that a coronavirus is making people sick or killing them.


During the so-called Zika Virus crisis of 2015, women in several countries were told not to get pregnant, because the virus might cause brain damage in their babies. That was a form of lockdown, too. If it were instituted for good reason, we would now be seeing massive numbers of babies all over the world born with microcephaly (smaller heads and brain damage), as the virus spreads. We aren't seeing that. I covered the Zika story extensively, and proved it was a scientific fraud. A dud.


The measures government authorities enact do not constitute proof of a harmful virus. Otherwise, presidents and kings could write science all day long simply by issuing orders.


We are now seeing photos of "people lying in the street" in Wuhan, and perhaps other Chinese cities, so-called victims of the coronavirus. What does this prove?


Answer: Nothing.


So far, I've seen pictures of four or five people lying in the street or on a hospital floor. In a city of 11 million people. If this, all by itself, were proof that a new coronavirus is a killer, then Los Angeles and New York---with their homeless street populations---would have no people left.


The text of a patent for a coronavirus is circulating wide and far on the Web. What does this prove?


Answer: Nothing.


Patents for many viruses are obtained all the time. More specifically, these patents discuss ways of weakening viruses or extracting material from them for the purposes of developing vaccines. I've read excerpts from two different coronavirus patents, one in the US and one in the UK. They both refer to vaccine development. They aren't, as some people assume, slam-dunk evidence that researchers are cooking up a virus in a lab or weaponizing it.


Well, here is a comforting development. The Chinese researcher, Zhong Nanshan, who "discovered the SARS virus" in 2003, is now at the forefront of pronouncements about the "new coronavirus" that is shaking up China and other parts of the world.


His mere presence on the scene is a warning sign: take a grain of salt, try a pound.

Zhong Nanshan's 2003 SARS "pandemic" was a dud. A WHO (World Health Organization) advisory against traveling to "infected" Toronto cost merchants in the city several billion dollars. Meanwhile, a Canadian WHO biologist, Frank Plummer, told the press he was shocked by the fact that fewer and fewer SARS patients had the virus in their bodies. Actually, "fewer and fewer," he said, was approaching ZERO. Hoax. THE PURPORTED CAUSE OF THE DISEASE WASN'T THERE. People had ordinary flu symptoms.


What do you do when this sort of embarrassment occurs? Do you confess the whole business was a mistake or a con or a hustle? Do you own up to the fact that, when people are said to be suffering from ordinary flu symptoms, and you're calling it a new disease with a new cause, you're wrong and you're very, very, very sorry? Do you point out that people who don't have the cause of a new disease in their bodies don't have the new disease?


Of course not. You just move ahead and pray no one notices.


When you claim the grand death total from the SARS "epidemic," worldwide, is 800 out of seven billion, and you can't even prove those 800 died from the "SARS virus," do you, the World Health Organization, admit your whole program of epidemic detection is a fraud? Do you pay Toronto several billion dollars for their troubles?


Of course not. You keep calling SARS an epidemic forever. You write fake histories. You do whatever is necessary to maintain your phony reputation.


And when a new possible-maybe-could-be virus surfaces in China, now, you bring the same researcher who "discovered SARS" out of mothballs, and you put him front and center.


Here's the capper. Read carefully. The World Health Organization claims that, every year, there are between three and five million cases of ordinary run-of-the-mill flu in the world, resulting in 290,000 to 650,000 deaths. The symptoms are indistinguishable from SARS. But for some reason, they don't declare ordinary flu an ongoing epidemic. No, they choose SARS, for which the cause is absent---and they call THAT an epidemic. It caused 800 deaths, versus 290,000-650,000 deaths.


Does this make any kind of sense? Actually, it does, if they want to: increase control over the population; condition them to expect and pray for a (watch-out TOXIC) vaccine to save them; shoot up pharmaceutical profits; scare the pants off people; induce them to willingly accept greater surveillance wherever they go; step up police and military presence; enact quarantines; hypnotize populations with the idea that they're lifelong patients under the supervision of the medical cartel; teach "safety and security" above freedom.


Just realize how right and good and true THE AUTHORITIES are, get down on your knees and thank your lucky stars they're here protecting the health of everyone on the planet. They're the Church of Biological Mysticism, and they want you as a devoted member.




Edited by Mario Milano, 24 January 2020 - 10:06 PM.

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 10:12 PM

For what it's worth
Elderberry is a natural antiviral.
Mullen is a natural expectorant
Dandilion is a natural liver/kidney cleanser.
Colloidal silver kills viruses
Thieves oil worked to prevent the black plague. Read it's history it's impressive.
Along with masks & protective gear this is my war chest.

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 10:16 PM

Oh look the big bad scary epidemic boogeyman is just the flu



The Median Age of Wuhan Virus Fatalities Is 75
By Marko Marjanović | Anti-Empire | January 24, 2020

When a new disease appears a measure of concern is natural since we don’t know yet what we’re dealing with, but just statistically it’s highly unlikely a disease, just because it is new, will be particularly deadly. On the contrary, chances are a new disease will be no more deadly or untreatable than the average existing one.

We can applaud China for taking the threat seriously, just to be on the safe side, but there is no reason to fall for the media’s relentless attempts to maximize your stress levels. They’ll use every trick in the book to maximize your attention and earn a bigger advertiser buck.

We go through this every couple of years. Mad cow disease, bird flu, SARS, ebola are just a few of the past examples. In the end, none of them ever racked up high body counts.

The Wuhan virus has so far killed 26 people, all of whom were elderly or had pre-existing conditions. In fact, the median age of the first 19 victims is 75-years old.

This new disease so far looks like a type of flu, quite possibly a weaker and more survivable strain.

The common flu kills 300,000-600,000 people yearly, depending on the year. Likewise overwhelmingly among the elderly.

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 10:50 PM

Now the fake News is in your local News.

Don't believe any of it


China's bid to contain a deadly new virus by placing cities of millions under quarantine is an unprecedented undertaking but it is unlikely to stop the disease spreading, experts warn.


The contagious virus has already reached elsewhere in China and abroad, and even an authoritarian government has only a small timeframe in which trapped residents will submit to such a lockdown, they say.

"I think we have passed the golden period of control and prevention," said Guan Yi, an expert on viruses at Hong Kong University.

China began its campaign on Thursday, cutting off all transport links out of Wuhan, a city of 11 million people where the coronavirus linked to SARS emerged late last year.

A cascading number of nearby cities has since been added to the travel blacklist, corralling more than 40 million people in a bid to stop those with the disease travelling and infecting others elsewhere.

However, with the death toll at 26 and infections being detected as far away as the United States, there are fears the exercise is too little too late.

Yi, who returned from Wuhan just before the lockdown, pointed out huge numbers of people would have already left ahead of the Lunar New Year holiday, which began Friday.

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Posted 25 January 2020 - 01:35 AM

Event 201

A 'High-Level Exercise' Conducted 3 Months Ago Showed That A Coronavirus Pandemic Could Kill 65 Million People

January 24, 2020

by Michael Snyder

" Just over three months ago, a "high-level pandemic exercise" entitled "Event 201" was held in New York City. On October 18th the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, in conjunction with the World Economic Forum and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, brought together "15 leaders of business, government, and public health" to simulate a scenario in which a coronavirus pandemic was ravaging the planet. The current coronavirus outbreak that originated in China did not begin until December, and so at that time it was supposedly just a hypothetical exercise. The following comes from the official page for this event... "

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Event 201

About the Event 201 exercise

Event 201 was a 3.5-hour pandemic tabletop exercise that simulated a series of dramatic, scenario-based facilitated discussions, confronting difficult, true-to-life dilemmas associated with response to a hypothetical, but scientifically plausible, pandemic. 15 global business, government, and public health leaders were players in the simulation exercise that highlighted unresolved real-world policy and economic issues that could be solved with sufficient political will, financial investment, and attention now and in the future.

The exercise consisted of pre-recorded news broadcasts, live "staff" briefings, and moderated discussions on specific topics. These issues were carefully designed in a compelling narrative that educated the participants and the audience.

The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, World Economic Forum, and Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation jointly propose these recommendations.


In recent years, the world has seen a growing number of epidemic events, amounting to approximately 200 events annually. These events are increasing, and they are disruptive to health, economies, and society. Managing these events already strains global capacity, even absent a pandemic threat. Experts agree that it is only a matter of time before one of these epidemics becomes global-a pandemic with potentially catastrophic consequences. A severe pandemic, which becomes "Event 201," would require reliable cooperation among several industries, national governments, and key international institutions.

Recent economic studies show that pandemics will be the cause of an average annual economic loss of 0.7% of global GDP - or $570 billion. The players responses to the scenario illuminated the need for cooperation among industry, national governments, key international institutions, and civil society, to avoid the catastrophic consequences that could arise from a large-scale pandemic.

Similar to the Center's 3 previous exercises - Clade X, Dark Winter, and Atlantic Storm-Event 201 aimed to educate senior leaders at the highest level of US and international governments and leaders in global industries.

It is also a tool to inform members of the policy and preparedness communities and the general public. This is distinct from many other forms of simulation exercises that test protocols or technical policies of a specific organization. Exercises similar to Event 201 are a particularly effective way to help policymakers gain a fuller understanding of the urgent challenges they could face in a dynamic, real-world crisis.


Details about the scenario are available here.



The next severe pandemic will not only cause great illness and loss of life but could also trigger major cascading economic and societal consequences that could contribute greatly to global impact and suffering. The Event 201 pandemic exercise, conducted on October 18, 2019, vividly demonstrated a number of these important gaps in pandemic preparedness as well as some of the elements of the solutions between the public and private sectors that will be needed to fill them. The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, World Economic Forum, and Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation jointly propose these recommendations.


Friday, October 18, 2019
8:45 a.m. 12:30 p.m.
The Pierre hotel
New York, NY

An invitation-only audience of nearly 130 people attended the exercises, and a livestream of the event was available to everyone. Video coverage is available here.

Exercise team

Eric Toner, MD, is the exercise team lead from the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. Crystal Watson, DrPH, MPH and Tara Kirk Sell, PhD, MA are co-leads from the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. Ryan Morhard, JD, is the exercise lead from the World Economic Forum, and Jeffrey French is the exercise lead for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

Exercise team members are Tom Inglesby, MD; Anita Cicero, JD; Randy Larsen, USAF (retired); Caitlin Rivers, PhD, MPH; Diane Meyer, RN, MPH; Matthew Shearer, MPH; Matthew Watson; Richard Bruns, PhD; Jackie Fox; Andrea Lapp; Margaret Miller; Carol Miller; and Julia Cizek.

Event 201 was supported by funding from the Open Philanthropy Project.


The Event 201 scenario

Event 201 simulates an outbreak of a novel zoonotic coronavirus transmitted from bats to pigs to people that eventually becomes efficiently transmissible from person to person, leading to a severe pandemic. The pathogen and the disease it causes are modeled largely on SARS, but it is more transmissible in the community setting by people with mild symptoms.

The disease starts in pig farms in Brazil, quietly and slowly at first, but then it starts to spread more rapidly in healthcare settings. When it starts to spread efficiently from person to person in the low-income, densely packed neighborhoods of some of the megacities in South America, the epidemic explodes. It is first exported by air travel to Portugal, the United States, and China and then to many other countries. Although at first some countries are able to control it, it continues to spread and be reintroduced, and eventually no country can maintain control.

There is no possibility of a vaccine being available in the first year. There is a fictional antiviral drug that can help the sick but not significantly limit spread of the disease.

Since the whole human population is susceptible, during the initial months of the pandemic, the cumulative number of cases increases exponentially, doubling every week. And as the cases and deaths accumulate, the economic and societal consequences become increasingly severe.

The scenario ends at the 18-month point, with 65 million deaths. The pandemic is beginning to slow due to the decreasing number of susceptible people. The pandemic will continue at some rate until there is an effective vaccine or until 80-90 % of the global population has been exposed. From that point on, it is likely to be an endemic childhood disease.


More Event 201 info at link


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Posted 25 January 2020 - 06:29 AM


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