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#1 redline

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 02:51 AM

Toward the end of the meeting, Hahn began a discussion of the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine, which Trump believes could be a "game-changer" against the coronavirus.

Hahn gave an update about the drug and what he was seeing in different trials and real-world results.
Then Navarro got up. He brought over a stack of folders and dropped them on the table. People started passing them around.
"And the first words out of his mouth are that the studies that he's seen, I believe they're mostly overseas, show 'clear therapeutic efficacy,'" said a source familiar with the conversation. "Those are the exact words out of his mouth."
Navarro's comments set off a heated exchange about how the Trump administration and the president ought to talk about the malaria drug, which Fauci and other public health officials stress is unproven to combat COVID-19.

Fauci pushed back against Navarro, saying that there was only anecdotal evidence that hydroxychloroquine works against the coronavirus.
Researchers have said studies out of France and China are inadequate because they did not include control groups.
Fauci and others have said much more data is needed to prove that hydroxychloroquine is effective against the coronavirus.
As part of his role, Navarro has been trying to source hydroxychloroquine from around the world. He's also been trying to ensure that there are enough domestic production capabilities inside the U.S.
Fauci's mention of anecdotal evidence "just set Peter off," said one of the sources. Navarro pointed to the pile of folders on the desk, which included printouts of studies on hydroxychloroquine from around the world.

Navarro said to Fauci, "That's science, not anecdote," said another of the sources.

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#2 Ivan88

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 03:53 AM

It is quite likely that this Fauci guy works for  guys like Gates and the rest of the drug/vaccine profiteers.


Edited by Ivan88, 06 April 2020 - 03:53 AM.

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#3 RobertD

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 05:04 AM

They can't profiteer from an existing effective cure. So these hypocrites pretend more testing is needed blah blah blah.
Scumbags all of them.

Give it to Boris Johnson and we'll see if it's effective. But they'd rather watch him die and then say "see it's a deadly flu" instead of cure him.

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Edited by RobertD, 06 April 2020 - 05:07 AM.

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#4 redline

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 09:15 AM

It is quite likely that this Fauci guy works for  guys like Gates and the rest of the drug/vaccine profiteers.

He's a ghoul. Along with FDA ghoul Hahn.


If it's as bleak as he says and no hope in sight any doctor worth his oath would allow its use as a "mass clinical trial" to see if it "flattens the curve" of death. He has his projections which spell doom, he's worried about a few having side effects? Or not working?

Then Fauci, roll out your solutions.

Do it.

You're the doctor that's concerned with humanity, you're the doctor that says it's coming back in fall, you're the one that's so concerned for everyone.

His solution, just die, were trying to save you...

Edited by redline, 06 April 2020 - 09:16 AM.

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 09:28 AM

CNN just showed a "heartwarming story" a wedding performed by video..well of course, it had to be a jewish wedding. then the next guest on CNN is talking about hydroxychloroquine and how it might have side effects in some people so it should be "studied more"

Amy pope. former US homeland Security advisor to Obama.

The Fauci approach.
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#6 shaktiman

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 09:57 AM

Good job red line!
You live up to your name
Regards
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#7 redline

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 10:00 AM

Good job red line!
You live up to your name
Regards


Thanks shak, just posting what I see.
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#8 redline

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 10:05 AM

Dr birx on CNN

Dont go to grocery store, dont go to pharmacy...this is not the time to do this

Then you deliver food and blood pressure pills etc to everyone cunt..

These people are "saving us"?

Edited by redline, 06 April 2020 - 10:06 AM.

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 10:44 AM

This is proof HCQ doesnt work?

11 patients, one left study.

These patients were quite ill according to the study.

8 of 10 avoided the ICU, 1 person died.

The virus was "still present" when tested later.

At what viral.load?

THIS STUDY DID NOT HAVE A "CONTROL GROUP" WHICH ARE GIVEN A PLACEBO TO COMPARE AGAINST THE MEDICATED..

FAUCI SAYS YOU NEED A CONTROL GROUP STUDY TO MEASURE EFFICACY.

So these people say HCQ doesnt work???

Small Trial Suggests Antimalarial Drugs Not Effective For Treating Coronavirus
KATHERINE SELEY-RADTKE, THE CONVERSATION
6 APRIL 2020

Like the Marseille study, the Molina trial was also a small pilot study. Molina and colleagues used the same dosing regimen as Gautret. In contrast, however, to the Gautret study, eight of the 11 patients had underlying health conditions, and 10 of 11 had fevers and were quite ill at the time the dosing began.
These Paris researchers found that after five to six days of treatment with hydroxychloroquine (600 mg per day for 10 days) and azithromycin (500 mg on day 1 and 250 mg on days 2 to 5), eight of the 10 patients still tested positive for COVID-19.
Of these 10 patients, one patient died, two were transferred to the ICU and another had to be removed from the treatment due to serious complications.


https://www-sciencea...ing-coronavirus

Did the patient who died have medical conditions, how old etc

They dont give all the information of the patients.

Its "anecdotal" this study.

Edited by redline, 06 April 2020 - 11:03 AM.

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#10 redline

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 10:47 AM

But Fauci says you NEED a control group

Maybe a control group 5 end up in ICU and 2 die...

A 100% death rate jump.

Edited by redline, 06 April 2020 - 11:01 AM.

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 12:05 PM

Dr birx on CNN

Dont go to grocery store, dont go to pharmacy...this is not the time to do this

Then you deliver food and blood pressure pills etc to everyone cunt..

These people are "saving us"?


They force everyone to wash hands in their witch brew infectious disinfectant. I wear gloves and wash the gloves.
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Posted 06 April 2020 - 12:08 PM

This is proof HCQ doesnt work?

11 patients, one left study.

These patients were quite ill according to the study.

8 of 10 avoided the ICU, 1 person died.

The virus was "still present" when tested later.

At what viral.load?

THIS STUDY DID NOT HAVE A "CONTROL GROUP" WHICH ARE GIVEN A PLACEBO TO COMPARE AGAINST THE MEDICATED..

FAUCI SAYS YOU NEED A CONTROL GROUP STUDY TO MEASURE EFFICACY.

So these people say HCQ doesnt work???

Small Trial Suggests Antimalarial Drugs Not Effective For Treating Coronavirus
KATHERINE SELEY-RADTKE, THE CONVERSATION
6 APRIL 2020

Like the Marseille study, the Molina trial was also a small pilot study. Molina and colleagues used the same dosing regimen as Gautret. In contrast, however, to the Gautret study, eight of the 11 patients had underlying health conditions, and 10 of 11 had fevers and were quite ill at the time the dosing began.
These Paris researchers found that after five to six days of treatment with hydroxychloroquine (600 mg per day for 10 days) and azithromycin (500 mg on day 1 and 250 mg on days 2 to 5), eight of the 10 patients still tested positive for COVID-19.
Of these 10 patients, one patient died, two were transferred to the ICU and another had to be removed from the treatment due to serious complications.


https://www-sciencea...ing-coronavirus

Did the patient who died have medical conditions, how old etc

They dont give all the information of the patients.

Its "anecdotal" this study.


8 out of 10 very ill patients recovered.
That's a very good success rate.
Definitely better than "nothing".
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#13 redline

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 12:27 PM

8 out of 10 very ill patients recovered.
That's a very good success rate.
Definitely better than "nothing".

Wheres that fauci baglicker Radio1.

The it doesnt work community says that 8 out of 10 very ill patients avoided the ICU,

That's the best they have?

With no control group?

10 non HCQ treated patients?

Edited by redline, 06 April 2020 - 12:28 PM.

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#14 redline

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 12:29 PM

8 out of 10 very ill patients recovered.
That's a very good success rate.
Definitely better than "nothing".


Could be 9, one in limbo.
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#15 RobertD

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 12:55 PM

Could be 9, one in limbo.


If I heard, "your chances of getting cured are over 80% with this treatment"

I'd be happy with that.
Someone better tell Boris Johnson about this.
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