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#21 USC

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 09:53 PM

Stupid hacker Alek?

 

I don’t know what you are taught in American schools, what history you study, but the fact remains that you are stupid, uneducated idiots and the whole world knows about it. You really lack of the real Soviet education. This is a Soviet history textbook of the 5th grade (fifth, Karl!), It is called "History of the Ancient World", for two quarters of the academic year we studied only the History of the Ancient World.

 

If you did not recognize the photograph, then this is the ancient Syrian Palmyra - that place, the center of all caravans, various cultures and all religions, which your pro-American baboons called ISIS tried to humiliate.

 

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I don’t know why you called yourself Alek, because there are only two names: one is Alexander - the name of my brother, (a computer programmer and formerly a senior lieutenant of the Navy). And there is the name Alexey, it's me. Both names have Greek roots (Protector of the people), but these are two different names. And all the other Aleks are some kind of Anglo-Saxon perversion of the real Greek and Orthodox names.

 

I (and my brother) have the surname Baryshnikov. As far as I am a Jew-Bolshevik and a Jew, you can ask my distant relative, the ballet dancer Mikhail Bryshnikov — my grandfather and Michael's father were cousins. Michael lives somewhere in New York doing Big Sex.

 

Ну что ты ещё смог выяснить - тупой, обдолбанный, в жопу ебаный хакер?


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Posted 29 May 2020 - 10:08 PM

Years ago I asked USC - Why do you hate Ukraine? Did Ukraine steal something from you?

 

He said - Yeah. They stole Crimea.

 

Now USC is happy. He got Crimea back.

 

But it's always good to hear the opinion of a Russian on a Russian forum.

 

 

Hellboy

 

Ukrainians needed Crimea as a territory ... without Russian people. They would gladly to sell this territory to Turkey or the United States, but buyers were afraid to buy this territory with the Russians.
 
  And now they amuse their wet dreams of how they will expel the Russians from there. he-he-he
 
Crimea is only the beginning. First, we will take back the Russian Donbass and the whole of New Russia to the very borders with Romania.
We will sell Kiev back to the Khazars so that there will never again be Poles. These Poles are worse than any Khazarin or Mongol-Tatar.
 
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#23 shaktiman

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 11:08 PM

I just learned today the court date with Mrs Shaktiman and me and the cryptic Clinton Foundation and Jewish organized crime members is once again continued to a later date. The lawyers and judges are crooked chicken shit.
USC I may be too inquisitive but who and why do you dislike some members here?
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Posted 29 May 2020 - 11:26 PM

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USC I may be too inquisitive but who and why do you dislike some members here?
 

 

 

Hello Mr.Shaktiman!

 

They are all terribly boring. This place has become boring. This used to be a place of triumph for the Internet and the exchange of a lot of interesting information.
 
Now they are talking only about Jews. This is no longer interesting to me.
 
Atossa went crazy - did you know her 20 years ago when they bombed Yugoslavia? She was different, but now her roof slid sideways.
 
Many good and interesting people have left, died. Those who are still alive sometimes read the Forum ... but less and less.
 
P.S. What do spermotoxicosis Clintons want from you?

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 11:38 PM

The begining/

 

Underground Serbian Cafe members First In The List:

 

 

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jp - Jun 13, 1999 18:35 (200.220.*)
Who's who in the Serbian Cafe? (66)

I will maintain the list as long as motivated, posting it twice a day. You can post your data as an answer to this posting, but better send a copy to jphj@lycosmail.com because the board is cleaned every so often and I have lost some of the data already (please include your nickname).
Lets play fair, no lies! (so you may post your birth date or not!):

Adelaida - May 14, 1999 00:23 (206.172.*) The only thing I can say is that I "hate" what is happening in my country where I was born. My father is a Muslim, my mother is catholic, I am Christian catholic (I suppose, don't know yet). Now, people from there would tell me to say that I am either Bosnian or Croatian. Well sorry everyone, I am from what you use to call Yugoslavia, where everyone loved and respected everyone until, I don't know what happened, but it did.

Aleksandar Vojvoda - Jun 12, 1999 17:20 (152.163.*): Engineering type who used to work on the equivalent Space program to the 'Buran' now employed in the "private" aviation-transportation sector. Assisted in cargo integration of European Space Agency experiments, LDEF. GAS-CAN's, and the cancelled Centaur IUS mod. 39 years of age,6 ft.,185 pnds.,likes vintage BMW's, gardening, and other odd,quirky things. Believes that the best insurance is 'preparedness' so has a small supply of food and survival gear(including a Zastava rifle) just in case Y2K turns ugly. I am against NATO and have had to re-examine my thinking about the "WEST".I would list my politics as "Nationalist"- partly as a reaction to the mouthpieces of the New World Order using this term as a demonization technique(they were, and still are, using the term "Isolationist" also).I believe that an armed society is a polite society ,and the facts pertaining to the US States that have implemented the "Concealed Carry" laws bear that out. If you can agree with most of what I have written, than you can agree that ,in a sense, WE ARE ALL SERBS!

Alexandr - May 15, 1999 07:39 (205.188.*): Cosmopolitan individualist

Almurtach - May 29, 1999 12:16 (194.219.*) Palestinian-Lebanese civil engineer student in the Greek National Polytechnic school. aged 34. Ex-member of South Lebanese paramilitary units, fought in South Lebanon against Israeli occupation forces (1984-1987). Twice injured. Have blown up one personnel carrier with an RPJ. Decided that war is futile in all its expose'. PEACE to the world.

angry man - May 24, 1999 07:01 (195.242.*): Russian, was born in St.Petersburg at February 23 of 1973. I hate any NATO countries citizen, because they pay taxes for criminal war of USA politician and their European stupid accomplices.

Archdeacon, The - May 22, 1999 10:36 (12.76.*): Mid-late twenties, anti-Nato, anti-KLA, anti-Milosevic, wish the Western governments actually cared about some of the real people involved in this conflict. American. Musician and writer by night, mild-mannered desk-jobber by day.

Captain america - May 15, 1999 11:30 (205.188.*): 38 yrs old,Married,3 children (8,5,1)Irish-Scots-German-Lithuanian(all 3rd generation).Living in New Jersey from ages 0-20,Florida 20-35,presently in North Carolina. Formerly worked on Space Shuttle, currently still in aerospace. Against Milosevic and Clinton, I am also against this stupid NATO attack on Yugoslavia and have generally opposed New World Order orchestrations.

Captain Sarcastic - May 28, 1999 17:16 (209.220.*): Joe Shmoe's alter-ego. I appear when I have something to say that is too inflamatory, insulting, or plain smart-alecky for the average Joe Shmoe. I am often surprised at how people sometimes agree with me.

Clive - May 22, 1999 20:26 (195.147.*): 189 cm, 100 kg arrogant, pompous, single, middle-aged self-appointed English polemicist and scourge of the politically correct. Brain the size of a planet. Militant francophile trained in Paris and Nice, professional linguist, consummate European, passionate bullfight enthusiast, implacable opponent of NATO's aggression against heroic people of Serbia, likes a good laugh.

DD - May 16, 1999 18:20 (193.203.*): 20 yo girl from Pancevo, Yugoslavia, 175cm, 55kg, ruby red hair and brown eyes, a student at the Belgrade Uni. (major in Serbian language, minor in literature, a teacher-to-be),half Serb, 0.25 Romanian, 0.25 Austrian, a pacifist, oppose Milosevic and Clinton, hate to see my country and countrymen dying because of the lies on both sides, can't understand the people who are said to be well informed and open minded but tend to disagree with everything that's not in their favour.

DEZINTEGRACIJA - Jun 11, 1999 07:16 (195.92.*): ETHNIC Bosnian SERB. That's all that matters.

Dirty yank - May 14, 1999 00:08 (152.163.*): I'm Lithuanian and the Russians killed all my family so I joined the army to kill Serbs

DOVE - May 29, 1999 09:27 (203.46.*): best way to describe my self square peg in a round hole from down under. I'm pissed of to no end about the yankee arrogance and their disregard for natural justice. I'm 53 yo and father of six.

Duplo Ve - May 24, 1999 06:16 (194.83.*): Born in London, 22/03/1977. Moved back to Belgrade after 6 months, lived there until 1993. Currently: Britain Serb, orthodox. Non-xenophobic, but hate everyone who hates me (us). Roots from Hercegovina, Slavonia, Serbia First time on "Politics" after a while

Dutchman - May 15, 1999 07:38 (145.58.*): Dutchman. Living in Holland. 39 years, 85 kilos, two sons 5 and 3 years old, usually opposed to any war but now (27.05) relieved that action is taken against Milosevic.

ecstacyattack - Jun 7, 1999 21:36 (62.172.*): I'm a human being. I love politics-that sounds voyeuristic in this context. I unhappily anticipate chatting in a North Korean cafe within the year. For-free speech, the future. Against-the free market, therapy (not the pop group), technique.

Foxhound - May 16, 1999 19:34 (195.235.*): Foxhound am I. Born in Australia but now living in Spain. Well travelled I have served in two country's military services. Yes, I was even an intelligence officer and strategist, I served in the infantry and was trained as an Assault Pioneer (Specialist core). I don't spell two well but am not fond of Nato's propaganda nor USA politics.

Geoff - Jun 8, 1999 20:43 (194.168.*): English, 38, Master Mariner (Captain), Class 1. Now work in former Soviet country with Russians, Croatians & Muslims so I get to hear both arguments about this war. Have travelled the world for 21 years and been just about everywhere. This is how I know that people are basically the same, whatever Nationality, race or creed. There are good and bad everywhere, but I believe the bad aren't bad deep down, just frightened. Not particularly religious, but I do try to live my life according to principles and teachings from a book called "A Course in Miracles" which has had a profound effect on my life. Am increasingly concerned with abuse of power in government, and how so few can affect so many, but don't know what to do about it. Never married, no kids, don't see the point while I can still get away with dating 20 year olds!! Current girlfriend is Russian, 20, gorgeous... but I can't see it lasting so I'm open to offers !

Greekman - May 15, 1999 19:48 (212.54.*): Greek, 44, married, three children (9,7,4) white collar worker, studies in Business Mgt, Marxist, disgusted with Capitalism, especially its new phase of neo-liberalism, outraged with US-Nato's new role, consequence of which is the murderous attack in a sovereign country on the pretext of a humanitarian catastrophe (which they themselves in reality have created). Totally against "New World Order" of the rich on top of the poor...

Grof - May 21, 1999 06:04 (142.194.*): Born January 6th 1979 in Vojvodina, SERBIA - the same day Jesus and Mussolini were born. Have a bit of both - which would be - kind to everyone except to those who insult and disrespect me. A hard-line, right-wing Serb nationalist with stomach for everything but lies [and McDonalds]. 192cm, 95 kg, could smash an opponent in tete-a-tete discussion because of short temper. I support all those who respect the laws of the State of Yugoslavia. Hates Clinton and his administration as well as all NATO countries except Italy and GREECE. Have tremendous hope to inflict pain on those responsible for the genocide which started on March 24 @ 20:00 local time.

Happy Harry - May 23, 1999 12:41 (212.243.*): Ex-officer of the Swiss army, now a chemical freak developing modern pharmaceuticals. Therefor shocked about the fact, that so called "civilised" nations may react with that amount of barbarism. In war everyone keeps his hands dirty, even if they claim that its for human reasons they're conducting the war. By the way, I live in Switzerland and am married.

helena - May 14, 1999 01:33 (193.84.*): posting from Prague

herman - Jun 7, 1999 06:10 (195.212.*): born 03 of July 1962, living in Flanders (Belgium), I like swimming and athletics. I love fine arts. I speak Dutch (native language), French, English, German, Italian and Russian. Flemish nationalist, supporter of as well Croatian as Serbian nationalists. I am opposed against Marxism and Yankee.

Hitchhiker - May 26, 1999 00:12 (209.151.*): Vietnam War veteran. Served in the first cav in Vietnam in 1969. Believes Milosevic is an evil dictator who spreads hatred where ever he can. Hate war, anti-milosevic and anti-Clinton. I enjoy having intellectual conversation but am high tempered to those who offer insults... I am from the state of Georgia.

Hoodwink - May 20, 1999 22:29 (24.112.*): Born and raised in Ontario, Canada. Have come to the conclusion that Milosovic and his nationalistic agenda must be stopped. Have Serbian friends who are honest and noble and who don't agree with the views depicted by some at the Serbian Cafe.

ILLUMINATI ETC - May 20, 1999 23:56 (158.252.*): manic/depressive with schizoid tendencies. Currently reside Atascadero state mental inst. for the criminally insane. Trustee status ,please don't tell the warden I'm using his computer. P.S.-I AM TOTALLY OPPOSED TO BOMBING OF CIVILLIAN INFRASTUCTURE AND THE POSSIBLE GROUND WAR.

Jacob - May 25, 1999 20:07 (153.37.*): American by birth, southern by the grace of god. I've spent a little time in the Balkans in the late '70's. I've even been to Yugoslavia (as it was then, now it's Croatia and Macedonia). I've been everybody from Duke Nukem to Joan Baez on this board. I have seen the fathers and mothers of the people dying there, and they were not evil to me. Take it as a testimonial.

Jessica - May 22, 1999 06:40 (196.31.*): 14 year old American, born in New York, raised in Chicago, pure American, I hate Milosevic and all the other bad people who are killing the poor Albanians. Hope to visit Kosovo once the war is over. Have a boyfriend named Hake, but we might break up soon.(wink wink, nudge nudge!!)brown straight, smooth hair and brown eyes, my parents say I'm pretty. I am very happy to meet all of you.

JH - May 22, 1999 03:08 (153.37.*): Law student at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C.; friend of certain Washington journalists and Clinton administration officials.

Joe Shmoe - May 28, 1999 13:27 (209.220.*): 28 yr old computer programmer in California (just outside Palo Alto, aka "silicon valley"). I am against armed actions, armies and killing in general, regardless of what the cause is. I think the real battle is not between countries, but between civilians and armies, between reason and force. I came here to get a better understanding of why this thing is happening and maybe find out if I can help put a stop to it.

Jp - May 13,1999 22:30: from Europe, living actually in Brazil, not Serb neither Albanian, hoping for peace.

kim - Jun 12, 1999 18:49 (194.168.*): staff nurse in a Belfast hospital. Loathe propaganda which demonises one side. Love truth. Support Serbian peoples stand against terrorism. Against NATO murder of serbian people. Grateful for Serbian and Russian stand against Nazis in 2nd world war.

krkan - May 13, 1999 22:50 (203.24.*): Serb and proud of it. 200 cm, 120 kg a real srbenda!

Logan - May 16, 1999 19:08 (207.175.*): American - 49 years old - Veteran of the Vietnam war. At present a school teacher in. Masters degree in Music - (teach instrumental music, trumpets, saxophones etc. to the kids). I've seen war up close and personal as they say, I've held young men in my arms as they died while crying for their mothers, I've seen what the impact of 500 and 1000 pound bombs have on us frail humans. Peace!

mao - May 27, 1999 08:41 (130.251.*): 24 years from western Europe, graduated in politics; I trust in god, i.e. I believe in the comrade mao. I despise the US and capitalism in general.

Marilyn - Jun 10, 1999 23:34 (216.76.*): I am a history professor in a small southern university in Louisiana, USA. I am old enough, that when I read the activities of others on this message board, I can say, "Been there, done that." I come home to a small mini farm (20 acres) located in a rural area. I am greeted by a love you know matter what you do Boston Terrier. My husband is a retired businessman who thinks a great day is working in his garden. I am very glad the peace agreement has been signed. I wish Serbians and Albanian Kosovars an opportunity to choose a new and better life. Both sides will be bitter, but if they have an opportunity to thrash it out, as we have, the healing process would be easier and faster.

Martin (via email): Born 09-01-63, Residence: Milwaukee, WI. Education: Marquette University, Milw. WI Business Major/Liberal Arts Minor. Single, only dependant is a
Dog named Foxy. My great-grandfather emigrated from Slovenia in 1918, great-grandmother from Finland in the same year. Politically, I am a fiscal conservative and a social moderate and declare as a Republican voter. (I did cut the rest, but would include a line or two more, jp).

max - May 23, 1999 10:10 (24.138.*): Canadian middle-aged male, anti-NATO, understands problems in Balkans to be complex, keeps coming back to this forum, feels kinship with people trying to make some sense of the madness, believes that Clinton, Blair, Albright and their followers are personally responsible for disasterous war in Yugoslavia.

michael - May 13, 1999 22:46 (206.191.*): Seattle area (Vashon island)

mikey formerly Michael - May 21, 1999 21:38 (202.61.*): from Sydney Australia. Opposes all forms of nationalism, opposes US-NATO aggression against Serbia. Rational and humane, and knows history. NATO cheerleaders handle with caution, can't stand Neanderthal hatemongers.

Mira - May 25, 1999 20:11 (207.175.*): female, ageless - Serbian Orthodox Christian - mother is first generation (Serbian) american, father is second generation (Irish) american.

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#26 USC

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 11:40 PM

USC members pictures:

 

http://russel.narod.ru/SC.html


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Posted 30 May 2020 - 12:46 AM

You made me read history of Ukraine, USC! 

 

S P Korolev was born in Ukraine.

 

And there is absolutely no way for both Russia and Ukraine to come to some kind of agreement to strengthen and benefit both peoples without killing eachother, USC?


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#28 shaktiman

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Posted 30 May 2020 - 01:43 AM

Hello my friend, Mr. USC

 

Always happy to write with you

 

Remember toasting each other - you with vodka and me with  cognac?

 

That was genuine on  my end.

 

Iwill  try to read your  whole post and  comment.

 

As for the  Clintons, I  shouldn't but I  hate those  demonic  gangsters.

 

 

 

Who's who in the Serbian Cafe? (66)
I will maintain the list as long as motivated, posting it twice a day. You can post your data as an answer to this posting, 

 

 

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Posted 30 May 2020 - 02:46 AM

 

 

S P Korolev was born in Ukraine.

 

 

 

 

Sergei Pavlovich KOROLEV was born in Belorussia in the family of a Russian language teacher.

 

Apart from Ukrainian and Belarusian nationalists - WE RUSSIAN always remember not only where they were born, but also what they did for the RUSSIAN EMPIRE.

 

Sikorsky, - the inventor of helicopters. He was born in Kiev, his father was the leader of the Kiev royal Romanov nobility.

Sikorsky always called himself a Russian nationalist.

 

Sikorsky, had never knew that SOME or ONE Ukrainiansare  exist.
 
He was born in the Russian city of Kiev in the NOBLE  family of a Russian monarchist and nationalist ..
 
 
Anyone want to add& - to argue me later&

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Posted 30 May 2020 - 03:01 AM

Hello my friend, Mr. USC

 

Always happy to write with you

 

Remember toasting each other - you with vodka and me with  cognac?

 

That was genuine on  my end.

 

Iwill  try to read your  whole post and  comment.

 

As for the  Clintons, I  shouldn't but I  hate those  demonic  gangsters.

 

 

 

 

Best regards

 

 

Shaktiman,

 

So that you don’t ask questions later, - My family considers Mikhail Baryshnikov a TAITOR-TRADER, - he left the country, he left his Father, a military man (who invested his whole soul and all his money in him), he left his wife, he left his dog, and then he took advantage American media REQUIRED to return his dog to him. His abandoned wife did not give him the dog.

 

I remember everything.


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Posted 30 May 2020 - 03:38 AM

Truth is that great majority of russian intelligentsia, smart and creative like Sikorsky hated Marxist/Bolshevik system and could hardly wait to get out of the soviet-shithole paradise!  


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Posted 30 May 2020 - 12:05 PM

USC members pictures:
 
http://russel.narod.ru/SC.html


Loved that place.

It was like walking through a desert and finding a gemstone in miles of sand.
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#33 shaktiman

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Posted 30 May 2020 - 01:00 PM

Loved that place.
It was like walking through a desert and finding a gemstone in miles of sand. 

 

 

Those  things do happen. A blessing

 

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#34 shaktiman

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Posted 30 May 2020 - 01:03 PM

Truth is that great majority of russian intelligentsia, smart and creative

 

 

I always ask myself did Americans have to  fall so low on the intelligence scale?

 

Still there are some that are brilliant but woe on  those that suppress the intelligence and creativity of others

 

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#35 shaktiman

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Posted 30 May 2020 - 01:12 PM

My family considers Mikhail Baryshnikov a TAITOR-TRADER, 

 

 

Your cousin visited Mrs. Shaktiman's  ballet class in Chicago (1970s).

 

I am surprised thinking  that he  was more  honorable. A great dancer  though.

 

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#36 shaktiman

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Posted 30 May 2020 - 01:14 PM

Both names have Greek roots

 

 

As do I and the Christian Orthodox faith

 

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Posted 30 May 2020 - 02:45 PM

I always ask myself did Americans have to  fall so low on the intelligence scale?

 

Still there are some that are brilliant but woe on  those that suppress the intelligence and creativity of others

 

 

Tell me how is this any different in Russia or any other civilized country in the world? There always gonna be a group of leaders and followers! 

 

 

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#38 shaktiman

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Posted 30 May 2020 - 03:26 PM

Tell me how is this any different in Russia or any other civilized country in the world? There always gonna be a group of leaders and followers!

 

 

That is an  honest question Kingranch.

 

America like other nations are, is unique/

 

First it is a land of  plenty and  rich

Second it is a land of waste and unapprehensiveness.

 

These two are a domestic conflict

 

There is extreme injustice that pretends to be honorable.

 

Third greed is the major principle  of life

 

Fourth Ignorance is not combated but rather propagated often as patriotism.

 

Although one may argue this occurs in every nation, which it does,

 

America's position on  the geopolitical stage exacerbates all of  this.

 

Yes it occurs everywhere but to  a top nation it is a glaring fault

 

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#39 Kingranch

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Posted 30 May 2020 - 09:03 PM

Shakti,

we are not talking about some hypothetical scenarios here! Tell me exactly who is right and who is wrong.....you can't! because there is no such thing as right or wrong in human relations/development! I have seen scores of Russian/Polish/Ukrainian emigrants here in Chicagoland area falling time and time again! Some wiser ones asked "what am I doing wrong?" First thing I tell them...forget what you have learned in your "superior" Marxist curriculum school system. If you can't deliver you won't have any success here ! 


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Posted 30 May 2020 - 10:43 PM

we are not talking about some hypothetical scenarios here! Tell me exactly who is right and who is wrong.....you can't! because there is no such thing as right or wrong in human relations/development!

 

 

Forgive my "hypothetical" (Gk = below the thesis) but I am always categorizing to understand  the facts better.

 

The issue of right  and wrong, objective vs. subjective truth describes reality one way or the other as well. 

 

Are you referring to the statement "And there is absolutely no way for both Russia and Ukraine to come to some kind of agreement to strengthen and benefit both peoples without killing eachother, USC?"

 

Then, I submit that I do not divine the future except in rare instances.

 

Science is now debating objective vs, subjective truth as well. They are failing at understanding.

 

In this math there is the real and the imaginary that are both separate and integrated.

 

​What I have learned is that among a plethora of unknowns one must find invariants.

 

but in terms or right and wrong with the caveat of defining those terms here is an example.

 

You are at home with your baby child. A  human monkey breaks into your house and puts a bullet in your child's head,

 

​Given all the caveats and legalism, it is wrong because of many reasons such  as the disrespect of life itself and that is doing a wrong

Your premises have a deep denotation as well as connotation

 

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