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#1 Slosh

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Posted 03 January 2004 - 10:27 PM

"Analyzing Anti-American Sentiment in the World"

Jim Sparkman
Saturday, January 03, 2004


Liberals just love to pound on President Bush for what they see as a cowboy approach to world events. They delight in chiding him for not getting the French and the Germans onboard for the Iraq war. The more extreme leftists even blame America for the hatred that the Islamist fundamentalists have for us. We represent capitalism and globalism in their eyes, and that is the source of all that is bad in the world.

But when you really bore in and see what they are saying about us in France, and in other European countries, you realize that there is no common ground for a good realtioship with these countries, if we are to act in our own best interests. They do not wish us well, pure and simple. What would make them happy is to see us falter, or even fail. Therefore, pandering to their desires would be an anathema to our best interests.

Stephen Goode, writing in Insight magazine, delves into the issue of what's behind the hatred of America.

In the weeks following that fateful September 11, there was an outpouring of sympathy for the United States and the 3,000 dead as a result of the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. But that sympathy, though welcome, was short-lived and paled before denunciations of America, which grew increasingly loud and very quickly crossed the line into outbursts of anti-Americanism so rabid they defied all reason.

In Brazil, for example, ex-Roman Catholic cleric Leonardo Boff, an exponent of liberation theology writing in a popular newspaper, declared that his only regret was that only one plane had crashed into the Pentagon. It would have been much better, according to Boff, if there had been 25 planes crashing into the building.

At least Boff, despite his shameful hatred for the United States, believed a plane had been involved. Only six months later, in March 2002, Thierry Meyssan published his profoundly mendacious L'Effroyable Imposture [The Terrifying Deception]. Billed as the "first independent inquiry" into the events of 9/11, the left-wing Meyssan claimed to be offering proof that no airplane had crashed into the Pentagon on that fateful day. Rather, Meyssan wrote, it was a truck loaded with a bomb that brought the death and damage that occurred.

And the truck bomb was not guided by Islamic jihadists. Meyssan concluded that Islamists had been unjustly blamed for a bombing that had been carried out as part of a massive disinformation campaign by the U.S. secret services to justify to the American public and the world the U.S. intervention in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The book was a best seller in France and elsewhere. Meyssan appeared frequently on television to plug his claims. His deeply anti-American message found resonance in Europe and among readers worldwide, even though Meyssan's imaginary truck bomb had no basis in fact: the plane was seen by many as it was flown into the building and his arguments were so transparently false as to be ludicrous.

In a new book, ''Anti-Americanism,'' Frenchman Jean-François Revel takes up the subject of the anti-Americanism demonstrated by Boff, Meyssan and many others and shows it to be the unreasoning, nasty and mean-spirited beast that it is.

Author of such highly regarded books as ''The Totalitarian Temptation'' and ''How Democracies Perish,'' Revel presents anti-Americanism as an unhealthy obsession and a phobia - unhealthy because it is all-consuming, overwhelming everything the anti-American thinks and does. It's unhealthy, too, because it is based largely on misinformation and downright ignorance of what the United States is really like and what it stands for, Revel says. This isn't odd, though, because people often are ill-informed or too lazy to do serious reading and thinking about subjects on which they're nonetheless willing to speak with certainty.

But when you really bore in and see what they are saying about us in France, and in other European countries, you realize that there is no common ground for a good realtioship with these countries, if we are to act in our own best interests.
Why the deep contempt for the U.S.A.? Partly it's due to America's success, Revel contends. ''Looking back over the past two centuries, American society has, in the long term, experienced a far more precocious, realistic and continuous dynamic of change than have European societies,'' he notes, with their ''spasmodic upheavals, revolutionary only in appearance, more often than not.''

But anti-Americanism isn't just dislike for the richest, most powerful kid on the block. It's much more. For one thing, it's warmed-over, old-fashioned, left-wing hatred of capitalism and liberalism expressed as hate for the world's great exemplar of liberal capitalist success, the United States, with its free-trade policies, its free institutions and free-speech traditions.

''America is the object of their loathing because, for a half-century or more, she has been the most prosperous and creative capitalist society on Earth,'' Revel argues.

But anti-American passions run deeper even than political ideology, and that makes them even more insidious than leftist cant. Revel, for example, doubts that anti-Americanism seriously can be challenged by rational thought and a careful mustering of facts. Overwhelming the anti-Americans with reason, he believes, would be a formidable and perhaps impossible task ''doomed to failure, since the disinformation in question is not the result of pardonable, correctable mistakes, but rather of a profound psychological need.''

It is this profound psychological need to see the United States bested and denounced that makes anti-Americanism the many-headed monster that it is and accounts for its particular viciousness, according to Revel. The need to denounce America is so deep, for example, that otherwise intelligent people are blind to the contradictions that lie at the very heart of their arguments. Thus the United States is denounced as a land where individualism is rampant and people are pitted against one another in Darwinian competition. At the same time, the United States is said to be a place where conformity is the rule and Americans a people incapable of thinking for themselves.

Even odder is the charge, frequently voiced in Europe these days, that America is a fascist society, ''a land that in over 200 years has never known a dictator, while Europe has been busy making troops of them.'' Indeed, Revel is very harsh on Europeans belittling America while ignoring the beam in their own eye. ''And as for Europe,'' he writes, ''let's not forget that we invented the great criminal ideologies of the 20th century, forcing the United States to intervene on our continent twice with her armies. America largely owes her unique superpower status today to Europe's mistakes.''

The greatest danger of anti-Americanism is that it blinds many people to the world as it is, Revel avers. Thus anti-American prejudice led European leaders to denounce as stupid and misguided Ronald Reagan's 1987 demand to Mikhail Gorbachev that the Berlin Wall be torn down. But today, a decade-and-a-half later, ''it is obvious--especially to citizens of the erstwhile 'satellites' of Eastern Europe--that President Reagan's policies precipitated the disintegration of the gangster regime based in Moscow."

Similarly, anti-Americans denounced President George W. Bush's naming of North Korea, Iraq, and Iran as ''an axis of evil'' His numerous anti-American critics said that Bush's words were stupid, the comments of a cowboy, even though, as Revel notes, ''it has been proved that the three countries he named had bought, manufactured, sold or given away weapons of mass destruction, arguably enabling terrorists to obtain them.'' Far from being a rash or stupid statement, Revel calls Bush's ''axis of evil'' speech ''altogether well thought out and adapted to the new context of hyperterrorism.''
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Posted 03 January 2004 - 10:28 PM

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Hyperterrorism. It's Revel's word for the enemy America faces now and an enemy that anti-Americans, he argues, refuse to recognize the seriousness of, thinking that by denouncing the United States as the aggressor and putting their own heads deeply in the sand, the threat of hyperterrorism will go away. ''So hundreds of thousands of pacifists in the United States and in Europe (notably in Italy),'' Revel observes, ''demonstrated on Oct. 14, 2001, brandishing banners that said: NO TO TERRORISM. NO TO WAR. Which is about as intelligent" as carrying signs that declare: ''NO TO ILLNESS. NO TO MEDICINE.''

Revel is eloquent on the great and very real dangers posed by the Islamic fundamentalist terrorists. He warns that Western intellectuals who think that alleviating poverty in the Middle East will bring an end to terrorism are fooling themselves. ''Islamic terrorism in general is the offspring of a religious idée fixe and has nothing to do with theories about poverty,'' Revel argues. ''To argue that the only way to combat terrorism is by eliminating economic inequalities between nations is not merely to misjudge the reasons for terrorism; it is above all to evade offering practical resistance to it.''

The Islamist hatred of the West is complete and it is based on religion. Doing away with poverty won't bring that hatred to an end, Revel warns. ''The radicals reproach Western civilization for contravening the teachings of the Qur'an in its very existence,'' he notes. There is no compromise that can be reached.

Revel has no patience with anti-Americans who denounce the United States for ''unilaterialism'' in Iraq and Afghanistan. "Obsessed by their hatred and floundering in illogicality, the dupes [the anti-Americans] forget that the United States, acting in her own self-interest, is also acting in the interest of us Europeans and in the interest of many other countries threatened, or already subverted and ruined by terrorism.''

Besides, if America won't do it, who will? ''Europe hasn't shown nearly enough inventiveness, organizational talent and adaptive flexibility'' to do much of anything in recent decades, Revel argues, and America has stepped into the vacuum left by a Europe ''inhibited by ideological prejudices.''
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Posted 03 January 2004 - 10:34 PM

"Liberals just love to pound on President Bush "

Jimmy Sparkie...

I ain't a liberal you commie retarded **** bag.


"The Islamist hatred of the West is complete and it is based on religion."

Keep saying that....

I suppose it has nothing to do with the Aryan superior race?



I see what they called the SS when they did similar things to the Jews..

But you are far worse.. Atleast the SS knew what the stood for. You on the other hand havent a brain to even buy a clue.
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Posted 03 January 2004 - 10:41 PM

"""I ain't a liberal you commie retarded **** bag."""

Yeah, you're an arse-backwards socialist. :D

"""""The Islamist hatred of the West is complete and it is based on religion."

Keep saying that....

I suppose it has nothing to do with the Aryan superior race? """"

The Christian churches had their reformations ... now it's about fycking time for the muslims to re-invent their religion and get rid off medieval moral, justice and social teachings.

The sharia doesn't fit into the post-enlightenment age, ditto for the suppression of women, the harassment of "infidels", ...

It's got nothing to do with race - and some Islamic countries already managed the step into modernity, such as Turkey.
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Posted 03 January 2004 - 10:50 PM

<<<<But when you really bore in and see what they are saying about us in France, and in other European countries, you realize that there is no common ground for a good realtioship with these countries, if we are to act in our own best interests. They do not wish us well, pure and simple. What would make them happy is to see us falter, or even fail. Therefore, pandering to their desires would be an anathema to our best interests.>>>>>

I got it!!!

Therefore, the only friend that the USA has is Israel, right?

(What a great intuition I have....

:D )
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Posted 03 January 2004 - 10:52 PM

Of course it has everything to do with race. Germans are one of the worst racist *******s I have met on the planet even worse than Russians. Americans are much better at least in that regard.


It has nothing to do with religion! NOTHING!


Even if it did we were Catholics long before you even learned to wash your *** after a dump. But that still did not prevent you from using force to enforce your version of religion on us did it. Only the part about who's boss... You did not care about thousands of years of history there.. Now all off a sudden you care what you did in the last few hundreds and its all supposed to be good and its all nice.

What elephant turd! In the 1700's when you were shoving women into caves, the Arab Muslims gave women the right to own property and legal status. So even there you are not very far off.

When did women and blacks get the right to vote and own property in the US?







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Posted 03 January 2004 - 10:57 PM

"""""Germans are one of the worst racist *******s I have met on the planet even worse than Russians. Americans are much better at least in that regard. """""

Americans are for sure among the lesser racist people on earth, russians are pretty heavily racist, maybe your observation about the Germans is true - though noone would admit it here ... :rolleyes:

About your other drivel:
Arabs once had a great culture, admitted.

But that culture has gone downhill centuries ago, and continues to do so ... I wouldn't want to be a woman in SA or the PA e.g. ... :rolleyes:

Arabs are synonymous for savages today ... :(
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Posted 03 January 2004 - 11:18 PM

"Arabs are synonymous for savages today ... "

Only to white people blinded by hatred!

Arabs don't discriminate and put their minority into jails. Both Israel and the US does this. I would bet Europe does it too.

France is now telling people what to wear.. Germany tells people what to think.... Americans force you to act..

What barbarians! When do you think the white race will become civilized enough to live on this planet?





But on another topic why is the German people not helping the Germans left over in the Russian gulags for the last 60 years?
There is an article in the new your times about hundreds of thousands of Aryans left over in Siberia.
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Posted 04 January 2004 - 03:12 PM

"""Arabs don't discriminate and put their minority into jails."""

A-ha ... what about the Shiite muslims - they are heavily discriminated against by the sunni majority ...

"""Both Israel and the US does this. I would bet Europe does it too. """

Proof of your stupidity - gives you a sense of eternity ...
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"""France is now telling people what to wear.. """

They got a laicistic state ... absolute separation of church and state - why shouldn't they ban headscarves ?!

"""Germany tells people what to think..."""

As dumb as you seem to be, you got a certain point here ...

"""Americans force you to act.."""

They did it with a Coalition of the Willing - nobody was forced to participate ...

""""What barbarians! When do you think the white race will become civilized enough to live on this planet?""""

The problem is, that we're already over-civilized, to a self-destructive extent ... tolerance against all and everything is the motto --- but we shouldn't exercise any tolerance against the intolerant, who wish to destroy us and our civilization.


"""But on another topic why is the German people not helping the Germans left over in the Russian gulags for the last 60 years?
There is an article in the new your times about hundreds of thousands of Aryans left over in Siberia."""

Bullshit.

Most gulag survivors - many died in the camps - returned home until about 1955/1960 ...

Still today there are special programs for the people you're referring to - the Aussiedler-/Spätaussiedlerprogramme ( dunno whether that's the official name ).

People claiming German ancestry can easily become German citizens when they come here ...


"""""""Muslims stone women to death for being raped and still behead Witches.
There was a fellow beheaded in Saudi Arabia two years ago for practicing Witchcraft....So much for being tolerant of other's religious beliefs"""""""

And that's just the tip of the iceberg ... for more, go to memri.org or palestinianmediawatch.org.il or similar sites ...


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