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#41 raffphi

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 11:33 AM

Originally posted by American Eagle
I CAN SEE YOUR INTEREST HAS BEEN CULTIVATED BY FAMILIAR RELATIONSHIPS.


GOTO: http://en.wikipedia....piracy_theories

FOR MORE B.S., GOTO: http://search.yahoo....-t&cop=mss&tab=
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I have read them before
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P.S. THE HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED, RIGHT?
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Wrong !
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ALSO, I SUPPOSE THE REST OF THE RADICAL ISLAMIST VIOLENCE, COINCIDING DIRECTLY WITH THE ANNOUNCEMENTS OF "AL-QAIDA"-TYPES, IS PURELY COINCIDENTAL.
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Like i have read at global research , for them AL-QUAIDA have been created in 1995 from thin air !
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AS IS EVERYTHING ELSE, THE MONUMENTAL MOUNTAIN OF EVIDENCE, WHICH CONTRADICTS THIS PATHETIC, TRANSPARENT ATTEMPT TO BLAME AMERICANS FOR MURDERING AMERICANS...
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Not only USA but too individuals in UE and Pakistan , even in France !
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DON'T WORRY RAFFPHI, WE'LL ALLOW YOU TO PRETEND AS YOU WISH...
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I love the" WE" ! , are you a King , a God , or inside an organization ?
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SEEING AS HOW YOUR SEX LIFE IS DIRECTLY ATTACHED TO YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM. WE CAN'T BLAME YOU FOR WANTING MORE PUSSY.
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I am a bit lost here , explain !
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JUST TRY NOT TO BECOME ONE IN THE PROCESS.
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One what !

One seeker of truth !

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#42 raffphi

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 11:43 AM

Originally posted by American Eagle
IGNORE:

THE EVIDENCE, EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY AND SUNDRY OTHER INTELLIGENCE GLEENED FROM DEFECTORS, PRISONERS, AND INTELLIGENCE PROFESSIONALS THE WORLD OVER...
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Why it take so much time to free the prisoners in guantanamo , working on creating more Al-Quaida members to fuel the legend ?
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THE FACT THAT U.S. CITIZENS GENERALLY HAVE NO INTEREST IN MASS-MURDERING THE REST OF THE U.S. POPULATION...
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Like in WW1, WW2 , korea , vietnam and in the two golf wars !
:rolleyes: :cool:
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PRETEND:

ALL OF YOUR PROBLEMS ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO A U.S.-"ZIONIST" CONSPIRACY...
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Look more to The US KKK trail ,or paperclip , much more better !
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SERIOUSLY...
WILL YOU NEVER TIRE OF MAKING AN *** OUT OF YOURSELF?
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Le ridicule ne tue pas !
Tu en es un bon exemple !

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#43 raffphi

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 11:52 AM

Originally posted by GIJOE
Now understand, there is more then just one raffphi, One is master of the english language,articulate, and precise.
And the other or others are not that familierwith the written words. This is truth, do not attempt to call it a joke or a lie.....
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YES YES YES ! I AM A ****ING SCHIZOPHRENIC !
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#44 raffphi

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 11:55 AM

<<<"The hijackers left no paper trail," proclaimed FBI Director Robert Mueller on April 30, 2002. "In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper...that mentioned any aspect of the Sept. 11 plot." Yet in the weeks immediately following September 11, Mueller and his FBI had left the public with a very different impression - an impression that conjured the vision of truckloads of paper documents pointing any number of ways to the culpability of Osama Bin Laden for the events of 9/11. For one, there was the infamous handwritten "checklist" found not only in hijacker Mohamed Atta's abandoned luggage, but also in the car rented in hijacker al-Hazmi's name, discovered at Dulles Airport, and which included lofty Arabic prayers alongside last minute reminders to bring "knives, your will, IDs, your passport, all your papers." But more importantly, the treasure trove in al-Hazmi's glove compartment yielded a paper trail that led all the way to London - and to the arrest of a potentially major suspect.

On September 30, 2001, as reported in the Telegraph by David Bamber, British prosecutor Arvinda Sambir announced that authorities had arrested Lotfi Raissi, whose name was found in al-Hazmi's rental. A further search of Raissi's apartment had yielded up a video clip starring Raissi with alleged hijacker Hani Hanjour - all in all, another circumstantial slam-dunk in the snowballing case against al-Qaida. Or was it? For by April of 2002 - when Mueller made his "paper trail" declaration - Raissi would go free for want of evidence. >>
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Do you know the meaning of those english words :

LACK OF EVIDENCE !

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#45 raffphi

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 11:58 AM

A comprehensive cover-up strategy would entail four objectives: i) explaining General Ahmad's "sudden retirement"; ii) gradually minimizing the money trail story while subtly transforming it; iii) providing a new "smoking gun"; and iv) carving out an alternative "legend" for Omar Saeed while finding an alternative paymaster. Of the four objectives, the last one would turn out to be the most convoluted.
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#46 raffphi

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 02:54 PM

http://members.fortu...ot-to-blame.htm

THE ARABS ARE NOT TO BLAME FOR THE WTC ATTACK.

The evidence is such that the only people we can be sure DID NOT carry out the WTC bombing are the Arabs.

The trouble with the case against bin Laden and the Arabs, so far, is that it is laughable. It is a joke.

The WTC attack, described as brilliantly planned and executed by professionals, who some how forget to acquire (easily obtainable) false driver's licenses for identification and, if you can believe it (and most people can not) used their real names when boarding the aircraft. The FBI suspect list was comprised using the assumption that those on the passenger lists had used their real names (real smart,.. these guys really earn their money eh?).

These same professionals, leave a car at an airport (which is found within hours of the attack,.. what a surprise!) with incriminating documents (a flight training manual in Arabic, etc). Professionals, (actually any sane persons) not wanting their "ground support" to be compromised, would take taxis to the airports.
When it is established that many, if not all the hijackers were using false identities the FBI suspect list does change (yeah, morons run the FBI).

One of the accused carries a passport on an internal flight (in case he wants to travel overseas after the attack).
This passport, originally in the accuseds luggage or on his person, rips through the suitcase or jacket, punches a hole through the WTC, survives the fireball and then flutters to the ground a few blocks away. Fortunately, the passport had the name of the accused on it and is generally in great condition, although apparently somewhat muddy.

One of the accused (Mohammed Atta) packs a suitcase (in case he wants to visit relatives for a few days after the attack) with a "how to be a terrorist in the US" document (just part of the professionalism, mentioned above) that just happens not to be loaded on the plane (so that the incriminating document survives,.. what a surprise!).

Mohammed Atta travels to Portland Maine to fly to Boston (why not drive straight to Boston) and transfers to the suicide flight. This is utterly unbelievable. This introduces a huge potential problem. What happens if his flight is delayed. How embarrassing for the so called leader of the terrorists, if he can't make his connection. That would throw a spanner in the works. Transferring flights like this offers no upside but huge downside, and is considerable evidence that Atta has been framed.
And do not forget that phone calls were made from the planes blamed the hijacking on Israelis (actually, they used the words "middle eastern looking" but we all know that many Israelis are very middle eastern looking).

These laughable "facts" which all point to the Arabs can be viewed as strong evidence that the WTC attack was not carried out by the Arabs. These nonsense "facts" all point to an event where someone is being framed.

So the only people we can be sure did not carry out the WTC bombing are the Arabs.
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#47 raffphi

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 03:18 PM

Firstly we have the story of 5 veterans spies from the Mossad caught , dancing , cheering , and filming the collapse of the WTC
Strange , i was nearly sure that the Mossad is considered like the world best secret services !

Some US medias have said that the FBI has found in the white van :

1-47000 dollars cash hidden inside the van

2-a dog specialist at smelling explosives , which acknowledge that for sure explosives have been transported by this van no much time before

3-and Oh miracle ! , two cutterknifes identical to the ones used by the terrorists for hijacking the planes the 9/11 !

Dont you beleive that this story look like more and more to the stuff about the indestructible passport of mohamed Atta found in the ruins of the WTC and of the terrorist car found at the airport full of proofs against the muslims!

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 05:40 PM

AFTER READING ALL OF THAT CRAP, THERE IS REALLY NO NEED TO.

HALF OF THE STUFF YOU POSTED DOESN'T EVEN ALLEGE U.S. WRONGDOING, SOME OF IT CONTAINS SUBSTANTIATING INFORMATION WHICH DOESN'T EVEN MATCH THE ALLEGATION, AND ALOT OF IT WAS JUST BIASED HYPERBOLE...

I WILL AGREE, HOWEVER, WITH MOST OF THE BCCI ASPECT.



THE REST, WELL, I READ THE PREGURGITATED TRASH THE DAY AFTER 911...

WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?
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#49 raffphi

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 07:00 PM

HALF OF THE STUFF YOU POSTED DOESN'T EVEN ALLEGE U.S. WRONGDOING, SOME OF IT CONTAINS SUBSTANTIATING INFORMATION WHICH DOESN'T EVEN MATCH THE ALLEGATION, AND ALOT OF IT WAS JUST BIASED HYPERBOLE...
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A little reminder hyperbolic perharps AE ?

<<As for the anthrax threat, a major principal in the company that holds the exclusive license for the anthrax vaccine is former Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff William Crowe, whose business associate in the consulting firm Global Options is - you guessed it - James Woolsey.

As for the present smallpox threat, the man charged with overseeing President Bush's mass vaccination policy was another "Dark Winter" alumnus, Jerry Hauer. Hauer, a former director of Kroll Associates - the security firm at the helm when the Twin Towers fell - is also the man who personally pulled strings in order to get senior FBI official John O'Neill his job as head of security at the World Trade Center. O'Neill, who had left a 30-year career in the FBI only two weeks before September 11, had perished in the rubble of the Twin Towers on his very first day at the post. Incidentally, O'Neill just happened to have been the main FBI official in charge of investigating all things bin Laden. >>
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he he he !

Does it hurt AE ?
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#50 raffphi

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Posted 03 December 2003 - 02:14 PM

Look like I have pushed the right buttons !

Imagine in 1991 the fall of URSS with the US help of 6 billions dollars of military stuff to the afghans in order to fight the russians and end the cold war!

Imagine too , some few healthy and powerfull people in USA and UE making big money from wars , saying that now that URSS has fallen how can we keep our oversized weapons industry to full power !

And then the genius idea , let create a ghost army, Al-Qaida , created to respond to every need on order to legalize invasion of states robbing their gas and petrol , destroying them in a firt step giving all the rebuilding markets and ressources to some business friends........................

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Posted 03 December 2003 - 02:28 PM

I saw last night on TV5 that France has been hit with a deluge of apocalyptic proportions.

Are you okay??

It appears that Paris was spared the worst part, but still. See what happens when your government goes on strike?? :D :D
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#52 raffphi

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Posted 03 December 2003 - 02:36 PM

Originally posted by The Beat
I saw last night on TV5 that France has been hit with a deluge of apocalyptic proportions.
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Yes , it has be terrible for people in the south of france , some are dead in their car with the surge of the mud and the water !
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Are you okay??
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Yes , remember , weed are hard to kill !
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It appears that Paris was spared the worst part, but still. See what happens when your government goes on strike?? :D
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Wait for the moment that i go on strike too !
A lot of people here are going to be happy !
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#53 GIJOE

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Posted 03 December 2003 - 04:57 PM

WOULD IT DISPLEASE YOU TO KNOW THAT THE 911 KILLERS WERE ALL ARABS? WOULD YOU BE SADDENED, OR JOYOUS.
NO AMERICAN EVER FOUND COMFORT IN THE PAIN DEATH AND SUFFERING OF A SINGLE FRENCH SOUL, NOT IN THE HISTORY OF OUR NATIONS NEVER EVER. WE AMERICANS TAKE NO COMFORT IN THE SUFFERING OF ANY CITIZIN OF ''FRANCE''/
THE MAN IN THE STREETS OF FRANCE THE FARMERS OF FRANCE,
THE BUSINESS MEN OF FRANCE, THE OLD VETERANS OF FRANCE.
MAYBE NOT THOSE RELATIVES OF THE LEADERS OF THE VICHY, BUT THERE ARE THOSE THAT WILL KILL THEIR OWN MOTHERS FOR A PRICE. AND THE VICHY FIT INTO THIS CATAGORY.
WHAT CATAGORY DOES OUR PURE FRENCHMAN RAFFPHI FIT INTO.
I WOULD THINK NOT PRO AMERICAN, OR PRO BRITISH, TO SAY THE VERY LEAST. THE LITTLE MISQUITO MAY BE INFECTED WITH THE SOCIALIST VIRUS, OR MAYBE A BAD CASE OF ISLAMIC
DEMENTIA, OR ANARCHIST TROTSKYISM..... WHAT EVER HE IS, HE IS SURE NOT GOING TO WATCH A JOHN WAYNE MOVIE TONIGHT...
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Posted 03 December 2003 - 09:41 PM

Originally posted by GIJOE
WOULD IT DISPLEASE YOU TO KNOW THAT THE 911 KILLERS WERE ALL ARABS? WOULD YOU BE SADDENED, OR JOYOUS.
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And what if the 9/11 killers were catholic fundies ?
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I WOULD THINK NOT PRO AMERICAN, OR PRO BRITISH, TO SAY THE VERY LEAST. THE LITTLE MISQUITO MAY BE INFECTED WITH THE SOCIALIST VIRUS, OR MAYBE A BAD CASE OF ISLAMIC
DEMENTIA, OR ANARCHIST TROTSKYISM.....
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Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
Want a sting !
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WHAT EVER HE IS, HE IS SURE NOT GOING TO WATCH A JOHN WAYNE MOVIE TONIGHT...
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No , I was watching Apocalypse Now , the 3hrs version !
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#55 GIJOE

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Posted 03 December 2003 - 10:19 PM

My lazy abusive socialist leaning father was nicknamed weed, and it was hard to kill him too. but eventually he passed on from a variety maladies at age 80.
today the news from former french colony iraq, is great for the Iraqi people and the Americans.
the Iraqi 's are swiftly taking back over the government of their own nation, minus the baath party and sodaminsane.
they have already created a 60kstrong security force, and a working nation that is doing better in every sector then prior the war......every sector up and working well.

I do know one place we have not yet looked for SADDAM,
UNDER CHIRACS BED........................IF HE YET BEEN THROWN OUT OF IT BY NOW......
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#56 raffphi

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Posted 03 December 2003 - 10:35 PM

Originally posted by GIJOE
My lazy abusive socialist leaning father was nicknamed weed, and it was hard to kill him too. but eventually he passed on from a variety maladies at age 80.
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You have had a father SOCIALIST ! , my god !
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today the news from former french colony iraq, is great for the Iraqi people and the Americans.
the Iraqi 's are swiftly taking back over the government of their own nation, minus the baath party and sodaminsane.
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From pikes-picot point of view
Irak = french colony , you are joking !
Irak = english colony yes better
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they have already created a 60kstrong security force, and a working nation that is doing better in every sector then prior the war......every sector up and working well.
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I hope that you Have well explained to them on who they have to shot !
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I do know one place we have not yet looked for SADDAM,
UNDER CHIRACS BED........................IF HE YET BEEN THROWN OUT OF IT BY NOW......
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Has i have yet said before , from April 2003, near my house a good restaurant has a new cooker with a big moustache!
They cook a very good couscous !
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#57 GIJOE

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Posted 03 December 2003 - 10:36 PM

To try to tell anyone that those responsible for the 911 attrocities, is in itself and attrocity.
To attempt to shift the blame to anyone one other then the arabs of the bin laden gang, is tantamount to delaring war in the u s.
Do you think France should declare war any kind of war, with the U S? Would you like to see tens of our cities in flames, and millions of our people burned and scarred dead and suffering from either a bio attack or a dirty bomb. would this give you a sense of satisfaction.
would this make those in your home sleep better tonight?
would those that belong to the same political party take glory if such a thing happened.
I f the u s became a firy nightmare would this then make you gleeful and happy. would you like to see our nation on fire.
tell us, tell us how you would react to the destruction of america, its people as well as its leadership. all murdered..........tell us how you would react to this type of scenerio......AMERICA TOTALLY DESTROYED BY TERRORIST WITH BIOLOGICAL AND DIRTY NUKE WEAPONS........
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#58 GIJOE

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Posted 03 December 2003 - 10:39 PM

IT'S OK GO AHEAD I HAVE REPELLENT ON. BZZZZZZZZ AWAY
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Posted 04 December 2003 - 01:36 AM

Couscous is from Morocco, not Iraq. (n.b. in English, it's Iraq; and in French, it's Irak).

I thought all deposed rulers were forced to live in Argentina or Chile, not France. Goes to show you what I know.

GIJOE

No more coffee for you, guy!!!
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#60 GIJOE

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Posted 04 December 2003 - 03:11 AM

Sorry Beat , lost it for a minute.

hey, i just read that we may be able to stabalize the place and put in place ligit police and army and be on our proverbial way. I know i am quite and optimist, but if it works out that way, and next year, there are supermarkets open all over bagdad and the place starts to look like munchen a few years after the war, thennnn we did a very good think for everybody.
like a flu shot it hurts like hell to get it but it could be worth it.


i don't know.
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